View Full Version : Sky is looks like is pulses on new OPPO 981
scottyb
07-15-2007, 12:09 PM
I just got the OPPO981 and connected it to my SONY KDF50E-2000 and when I see the sky in the video (The Living Sea) it looks like a pulsating motion, it is not crisp or smooth. When it goes to a shot of the ocean there is pulsating. The movie is fluid but it is like you see a ghosting of pulsating lines in the background. It is kind of hard to describe. I am running the supplied HDMI cable straight to the TV. I have the OPPO set to 1080i. I haven't did any major adjustments to the dvd player yet. I like the player so far, I just think I am being to finicky.
avaserfi
07-15-2007, 01:25 PM
My first suggestion would be setting the Oppo to 720p I don't know if its the problem, probably isn't, but that would be the native resolution of your screen and probably make the image look better. Also, I would check out another movie and see if the same effect happens.
j_garcia
07-16-2007, 02:41 PM
Have you calibrated your TV? Sounds like you have something set up incorrectly, most likely the sharpness control.
majorloser
07-16-2007, 05:02 PM
As "avaserfi" suggested, the first thing you need to do is set the OPPO to output 720P and 16:9 format.
I own an Oppo 981HD that's outputting through HDMI to my 720P native projector and the picture is beautiful. The new Oppos should come with the latest firmware version. Might want to check their website to be sure.
joltdudeuc
07-16-2007, 06:51 PM
I just got the OPPO981 and connected it to my SONY KDF50E-2000 and when I see the sky in the video (The Living Sea) it looks like a pulsating motion, it is not crisp or smooth. When it goes to a shot of the ocean there is pulsating. The movie is fluid but it is like you see a ghosting of pulsating lines in the background. It is kind of hard to describe. I am running the supplied HDMI cable straight to the TV. I have the OPPO set to 1080i. I haven't did any major adjustments to the dvd player yet. I like the player so far, I just think I am being to finicky.
Sounds like Macroblocking
Leprkon
07-16-2007, 09:27 PM
As "avaserfi" suggested, the first thing you need to do is set the OPPO to output 720P and 16:9 format.
I own an Oppo 981HD that's outputting through HDMI to my 720P native projector and the picture is beautiful. The new Oppos should come with the latest firmware version. Might want to check their website to be sure.
the e2000 uses 720P for its native format. At 1080i, you're scaling up from your DVD player and then back down in the TV. it's probably causing some issues. I use a Toshiba HD-A1 on my E2000 at 720P for the same reason.
jjurroz
07-17-2007, 10:35 AM
Sounds like Macroblocking
you are correct. It should also be noted that macroblocking is more common in DLP tv sets as well.
joltdudeuc
07-17-2007, 01:36 PM
you are correct. It should also be noted that macroblocking is more common in DLP tv sets as well.
Macroblocking is on the source.
RPTVs (of any kind) will enhance it. It just happens to be that DLPs are the worst offenders. But again, all RPTV have MB enchance.
Oh, and the 981 of course as well :)
j_garcia
07-17-2007, 05:01 PM
981 should be better with macroblocking, since Oppo recommends the 981 and the 971 for DLP vs the 970 because of MB issues due to the fact that they use the Faroudja processing. That doesn't mean it can't happen. As noted, switching to 720p should help a lot.
scottyb
07-17-2007, 06:59 PM
I checked out 720p and the same thing happened. I will try to adjust settings and where do I find out what firmware version I have. To me the 1080i seemed a little better, but I will check back and forth. My tv is a lcd projection I don't know if that is the same as DLP.
Thanks
avaserfi
07-17-2007, 07:37 PM
Do you have a different DVD player you can compare to and see if it is the Oppo or the TV?
j_garcia
07-17-2007, 07:55 PM
LCD projection is not the same thing as DLP, other than the fact that they are both rear projection. I might try Oppo technical support as they may be able to give you some insight.
vman71
07-18-2007, 10:17 AM
There are some know issues with "macroblocking" using certain technologies together. A number of folks have mentioned the macroblocking feature and DLP sets.
Your Sony isn't a DLP but I think the 981 does the macroblocking thing, which still might have some effect on LCOS based TV's.
j_garcia
07-18-2007, 01:03 PM
LCOS isn't LCD projection, and Sony doesn't do LCOS.
joltdudeuc
07-18-2007, 01:33 PM
981 should be better with macroblocking, since Oppo recommends the 981 and the 971 for DLP vs the 970 because of MB issues due to the fact that they use the Faroudja processing. That doesn't mean it can't happen. As noted, switching to 720p should help a lot.
Actually its the other way around. Call Oppo, and this is what they will tell you:
DLP: 970
RPTV: SHOULD get 970
Front Projection and flat panel: 981
joltdudeuc
07-18-2007, 01:34 PM
LCOS isn't LCD projection, and Sony doesn't do LCOS.
Every heard of SXRD?
SXRD is LCoS.
obscbyclouds
07-18-2007, 01:44 PM
LCOS isn't LCD projection, and Sony doesn't do LCOS.
Have to disagree there, LCoS and SXRD (i.e. KDS series) are the same.
j_garcia
07-18-2007, 03:01 PM
Didn't realize that. Learn something every day. My next set will still be direct view LCD not projection.
Actually its the other way around. Call Oppo, and this is what they will tell you:
DLP: 970
RPTV: SHOULD get 970
Front Projection and flat panel: 981
That wasn't what they said when I was there in person picking mine up. That's also not what they told a friend of mine who has a DLP set.... I have a CRT though, as well as the fact that I would use the SACD/DVD-A capability, so he said the 970 was a better choice.
j_garcia
07-19-2007, 03:52 PM
I heard another person say the same thing about MB and the 971/981, so I think I will have to call them and see what they say. There was nothing about it on their site.
BHearon
07-21-2007, 01:07 PM
:confused:I have seen differing opinions regarding macroblocking and what sets seem more affected. More consistently plasma and DLP have been mentioned as prone to the problem and less so with LCOS/SXRD. I am looking at a new upconverting DVD player to be used with a JVC rear projection 720P TV. Any thoughts regarding the Oppo vs another DVD player? I am tempted by the Denon 2930ci but the reliability of Denon has been a real problem recently.
Thanks
BHearon
j_garcia
07-21-2007, 01:30 PM
What time frame do you mean for Denon because both of my players had/have been excellent. Very well built and I put many hours on both of them.
The Oppos are not so well built, but that is how they achieve the price. Performance wise, it is very hard to beat them.
Ryan8886
07-22-2007, 12:50 PM
What time frame do you mean for Denon because both of my players had/have been excellent. Very well built and I put many hours on both of them.
The Oppos are not so well built, but that is how they achieve the price. Performance wise, it is very hard to beat them.
Define "not so well built". I've had mine for about 6 months with no issues. It gets pretty regular use and works as advertised. Picture quality on my 4 year old CRT-RPTV is excellent. There are occasionally some minor MB issues, but nothing that has ever ruined the movie experience. Also, my understanding is this is a software issue, not a build-quality issue (Faroudja processing has a tendancy to MB enhance on some displays). As for build-quality, the unit seems constructed as solid as any of my other components (except for the flexy disc tray...I'll give you that one..it's a little strange, but perfectly functional). Not trying to jump on you...just curious if you're aware of some issues I should know about?:)
j_garcia
07-22-2007, 02:25 PM
Define "not so well built". I've had mine for about 6 months with no issues. It gets pretty regular use and works as advertised. Picture quality on my 4 year old CRT-RPTV is excellent. There are occasionally some minor MB issues, but nothing that has ever ruined the movie experience. Also, my understanding is this is a software issue, not a build-quality issue (Faroudja processing has a tendancy to MB enhance on some displays). As for build-quality, the unit seems constructed as solid as any of my other components (except for the flexy disc tray...I'll give you that one..it's a little strange, but perfectly functional). Not trying to jump on you...just curious if you're aware of some issues I should know about?:)
No quality issues that I know of, just saying that the way they kept the cost down was by making these things as simple as absolutely possible. The tray being a big one. It isn't exactly solid and sturdy feeling, but I don't really see it as a liability because they do work fine. if it lasts 2 years, I will be satisfied.
vman71
07-22-2007, 04:25 PM
:confused:I have seen differing opinions regarding macroblocking and what sets seem more affected. More consistently plasma and DLP have been mentioned as prone to the problem and less so with LCOS/SXRD. I am looking at a new upconverting DVD player to be used with a JVC rear projection 720P TV. Any thoughts regarding the Oppo vs another DVD player? I am tempted by the Denon 2930ci but the reliability of Denon has been a real problem recently.
Thanks
BHearon
I'm on my second Denon DVD-1930CI. The first one developed problems with the tray. It sounded like a loud clicking sound and it was very loud. It played all the dics fine but the loud clicking sound was not a good sign.
My second 1930CI seems to be working good, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
obscbyclouds
07-23-2007, 12:21 AM
I'd love to see a failure rate comparison, of many of these players...fat chance of that though.
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