Best Gaming Console

[dpnaugle]

I'm thinking about buying a PS3 but really don't know much about the choices out there. I have never had a game console, only PC games.

If I go this direction I want the system that will offer the most, the best.

What do you all think?

DN

[mjhamre]

There are something like 250+ replies to this very question.

My 30 second summary:
Nintendo Wii - cheapest, most fun for casual gamers, in the past had most kid friendly titles, new form of input makes new kinds of games possible
Microsoft Xbox 360 - mid priced, best software support currently, HD-DVD add on is pretty much an afterthought (but still $100 cheaper than last year's models)
Sony PS3 - highest priced, best software support last gen (and maybe later this time around), Blu-Ray built in

You will probably be able to get 80-90% of the 360 titles on the PS3 and vis-versa. The Wii is pretty unique, and will have way more original titles. I've got a 360 and a Wii and would not trade them for a PS3 right now with the games that are out there. You can pick up a 360 and a Wii (or are the Wiis still hard to find) for about the price of a PS3.

Good luck,

--Matt

--Matt

[emorphien]

The Wii is a fun party console if you like playing with other people.

The PS3 vs XB360 comes down to the available games. The Xbox 360 has a year head start and obviously wins in this category. In terms of graphical power they're probably more similar than anything else, and it'll come down to coding optimization so if you're looking for the prettiest, well go with whatever. PS3 plays blu-rays out of the box, XB360 has an HDDVD attachment.

I prefer the Xbox controllers and the media center, the PS3 has a lot of nifty built in features (especially since they've discontinued the 20gb version).

Sony has left such a bad taste in my mouth in the past couple years though that I'd personally avoid the console based on that alone due to all their mistakes and the things they said prior to release but never came through on. Additionally their cocky attitude and idiocy in the media department (music and DVDs, DRM and other issues) have pretty much put me off from buying Sony personally.

Your mileage may vary, if you haven't been following all that news I guess you wouldn't care!

[darien87]

Sony has left such a bad taste in my mouth in the past couple years though that I'd personally avoid the console based on that alone due to all their mistakes and the things they said prior to release but never came through on. Additionally their cocky attitude and idiocy in the media department (music and DVDs, DRM and other issues) have pretty much put me off from buying Sony personally.


I agree with you on not liking Sony. I have had numerous Sony products that have broken in my life. About the only Sony products I haven't had problems with are my Playstations. I've kinda been locked into the Playstation since I bought the PS 1 all those years ago. I went with the PS 2 because I didn't feel like buying a whole new system (XBox) and starting all over again. So now it's the same story with the PS 3. The deciding factor for me was the built-in Blu-ray player on the PS 3. True $600 is pretty damn steep, and I probably wouldn't have bought one so soon if I didn't have a Best Buy card.

I will say that Xbox 360 definitely has the edge right now, just because of it's sheer number of games right now. However, that is about to change. There are a LOT of great games coming out for the PS 3 in the next few months. I expect once these games start coming out and developers get comfortable programming for the PS 3, things will shift to the Sony side.

They're both great machines. I think what it comes down to is this: Do you need immediate gratification, (360), or are you willing to wait a little while, (PS 3)?

[superstar]

Only you can tell what you like, so go to the nearest game store, play all the consoles, and see which controller you liked best since that is what you will be stuck with, choose one, check the games and see if there are titles that you will enjoy, most of the games are multiplatform (same title in different consoles) but some are just created for a specific console and go from there.

[j_garcia]

The 360 has the best controllers of any console. The PS3 controllers are OK. 360 definitely has better game selection right now, but that won't last long. The biggest titles are currently going to be focusing on PS3. I thought lack of games would be an issue, but so far it hasn't. Plenty of places to rent them and a ton of downloadable content has left me with plenty to use for the PS3...let alone the fact that it is an excellent Blu-Ray player - for HD-DVD, you have to buy the add-on for the 360 making it basically the same price as the PS3...

After seeing one game on the PS3 it was obvious which way to go. My brother has had his 360 for a while and while the games do look good (much better than PS2), even the best games aren't quite as good as the PS3 games so far and those are just the first games...they haven't even tapped into the potential of the PS3 yet. Graphics on the PS3 are stunning. The in game graphics are as good as the cutscenes; something the 360 is simply not capable of. I had to scrimp and save to get my PS3 but it was worth every penny.

[emorphien]

The biggest titles are currently going to be focusing on PS3.

From what I've seen they'll be on both.

[avaserfi]

I think in the long run it depends on what you want. If you want a great party system get the Wii its a blast with other people. But if you want a serious piece of hardware most likely the PS3 is what you will want. Right now the 360 has some great games but it also has the advantage of being a year older. The new consoles will catch up.

[j_garcia]

From what I've seen they'll be on both.

Some, not all. From what I've read, the biggest ones like MGS4 will be PS3 exclusive. A few will be exclusive, but a few of the more popular ones will go to both; however some will be on one or the other first for a while.

[emorphien]

Some, not all. From what I've read, the biggest ones like MGS4 will be PS3 exclusive. A few will be exclusive, but a few of the more popular ones will go to both; however some will be on one or the other first for a while.

Well if you are just talking about Sony's long running big titles, then sure but that's not a fair comparison unless you include the Xbox titles. From what I recall, other traditionally PS games are supposed to be going dual platform on release (GTA among them), and Halo 3 obviously will be Xbox 360. In terms of exclusives they seem pretty similar depending on what you're in to. I don't see either having the upper hand there in another 6 months, but in terms of number of good games right now, the Xbox wins no trouble.

I'm sure we can expect to see a Gears of War 2 and other popular games to continue their franchises on the Xbox.

[Pwner_2130]

"I have had numerous Sony products that have broken in my life"
Can i ask you darien87, what Sony products you have had break? In my experience the Sony gear i have is pretty tough and lasts a long time

[zheepeez]

I'd say go for the Wii - it just seems like the others will be dying out eventually/pretty soon with the new control system on the Wii and thus you'll end up with the most titles available for the Wii. That, and it's just plain funky. Sure, you've got HD-DVD support and God knows what else on the others, but at the end of the day you want a dedicated gaming console, not something with HD-DVD support (and also plays games).

[Pwner_2130]

darien87 , what Sony products went bad on you?

[mikeyj92]

darien87 , what Sony products went bad on you?

In the late 90's (1997/98 or so) I bought a $400 Sony receiver, it lasted 5 years and stopped working.

I also, at the same time, bought a $300 DVD player and it stopped working after 2 years.

My 32" Wega I bought in 1999 got a color blotch on it about 4" in diameter in 2005.

3 out of 4 Sony items I've purchased have stopped working.

The other brands I've bought (Panasonic, phillips, RCA), though they weren't as "good" as Sony, all worked until I gave them away or they still work in my house...I've had no other brand "break".

It is a main reason why I shy'd away from the PS3 and went with my 360.

[j_garcia]

I had a cheap Sony CD changer that worked for 11 years before I gave it away to a friend (the cable for the tray did have to be replaced). None of my Sony TVs have had issues so far. I still have my Sony DVD player from ~2000 and it just started to fail after 7 years. My 222ES SACD player is now starting to have issues after about 4 years (the tray sticks sometimes...), but it still plays fine. I owned a few receivers and was never really impressed with them, so I don't plan on buying another one ever, but that does not reflect on their other products. Each product is made by essentially a different "company", if you want to look at it that way, as each division functions pretty much independent of the others.

The high failure rate of the 360 was a factor in me not buying one. My brother has had his for a little less than a year so far and hasn't had an issue yet.

[apatel25314]

I have all three:) but if you want the BEST console get the ps3, you already have an hddvd player and this would add blu-ray to your list,the graphics are awesome and im loving the fact that you can get 7.1 on many titles

the 360 is fun, but not stunning once owning a ps3.

the wii, may be fun at first, but personally i do not like it much at all the image quality is horrible, with the sound not all that far behind

[j_garcia]

A friend has the Wii and said the same thing. The novelty wears off and actually makes it less fun after a while.

[abboudc]

It is a main reason why I shy'd away from the PS3 and went with my 360.

Yikes. While sony hasn't exactly been good to you, if you think the 360 is going to be reliable, you're in for a disappointment. In fact it may be the least reliable console ever produced.

I wouldn't recommend a PS3 right now. People aren't buying them, and many dev houses are cancelling their projects for PS3 and redeploying those teams to work on Wii games (which is still selling ridiculously well). The ps3 has the best hardware no doubt, but IMO the best console is the one with the best games. And at least until the end of the year, that's not going to be ps3.

[j_garcia]

There are games that are out now are excellent for the PS3, there just aren't enough of them. This holiday season, I think the PS3 will do very well and grow their install base considerably.

The Wii is a fad basically and it will pass just like the Game Cube and the DS. It doesn't matter that they have good games, they don't have the staying power that the PS1 or PS2 did, or even the NES/SNES. The ONLY reason it is selling is because of a lot of press and the simple fact that it is the LEAST EXPENSIVE console available, making it an easy pill to swallow for parents compared to the likes of the PS3. To be honest, the games for the Wii just aren't all that impressive at this point either, so it isn't specific titles that people are buying it for.

[mikeyj92]

Yikes. While sony hasn't exactly been good to you, if you think the 360 is going to be reliable, you're in for a disappointment. In fact it may be the least reliable console ever produced.

I wouldn't recommend a PS3 right now. People aren't buying them, and many dev houses are cancelling their projects for PS3 and redeploying those teams to work on Wii games (which is still selling ridiculously well). The ps3 has the best hardware no doubt, but IMO the best console is the one with the best games. And at least until the end of the year, that's not going to be ps3.

I know full well of what you speak, i'm a regular on the 360 forums and have read hundreds of 360 three-red-lights-of-death horror stories.

so far mine has been...above average. it still locks up from time to time (did again today) but that has become more infrequent since i got it in January.

I am particulary interested in Rockstar games coming out and stating they are running into issue with the 360's lack of a HDD in all systems.

This is a big warning light for all 360 owners, imo.

Not only do 360 games have to be put on a DVD compared to PS3's Blu-Ray discs, but the developers have to design a game on the 360 that can't require use of a HDD.

I foresee that fact being the Achille's heel of the 360.

Particulary "sandbox" style games. Those games need to run seemlessly and have minimal load times, which on the PS3 they will be able to, but the 360's lack of storage is going to be a serious roadblock for the GTA series, which is a ton of fun.

I was leaning towards getting a PS3 for blu-ray playing anyway, and I think if this issue continues to plague rockstar games and cause a GTA 4 "lite" for 360 compared to PS3's version, I will buy a PS3.

And I doubt I'll be the only one.

[abboudc]

The Wii is a fad basically and it will pass just like the Game Cube and the DS.

The DS is anything but a fad. They've sold over 10 million of those things and it shows no signs of slowing down. Even the software is selling really really well.

The PS3 has to come down in price, and right away. The games look pretty, but if no one buys the console, it's not going to make it very long. They need to make the developers happy first, and no one wants to spend 20 million dollars to develop a game if there isn't a large enough console base to make it profitable. They didn't have one software title in the top 20 in march, which is amazing considering its a new console and there are only a few games out.

My prediction: You'll see a much lower cost PS3 (~$350) come out well before the holidays. It's the only way it's going to survive.

[j_garcia]

They've already hinted at the fact that there may be a lower model introduced, just as the 20g model has been discontinued. It is having a slow start, but it definitely doesn't look like it will have a problem "surviving".

[abboudc]

They've already hinted at the fact that there may be a lower model introduced, just as the 20g model has been discontinued. It is having a slow start, but it definitely doesn't look like it will have a problem "surviving".

I hope you're right and I hope they do it soon -- they need to start selling more consoles. But it's not a good sign that the 360 outsold it by 50% in March, when it's only been out 4 months. Even the PSP outsold it by a significant margin. Talking to the local gamestop manager, he made a joke that they get more PS3 returns than they sell.

Personally, *I* won't even consider buying it until it comes down in price and much better games are available, which looks to be 2008 at this point. And that says a lot, i've owned just about every major console since the Genesis.

I wasn't doubting it would survive, Sony's not dumb enough not to do *something* on the price...it took them a long time, but they finally lowered the price on the PSP. Hopefully they get the hint sooner on the PS3.

[avaserfi]

Currently I have a Wii and its a great system especially for more casual gamers. That being said I also plan on buying a ps3 pretty soon, during the summer. The only way that will be changing is if something spectacular happens with the 360 or something terrible happens with the ps3.

Overall the ps3 will win this war especially once the prices drop.

[j_garcia]

IMO, much of the cost is due to the fact that they did pretty much everything in house and the laser assemblies as well as HDMI 1.3 chips were all basically being sucked up by Sony. Now both the 1.3 stuff (thanks to Silicon Image?) and the laser assemblies are up to a decent level of capacity which means Sony can start bringing its own cost down. I totally agree they need to bring the price down for it to REALLY catch on; it was still a hard pill for me to swallow at Christmas, but one I was willing to suffer even knowing there were only going to be about 10 or so games. I was a little disappointed with the initial offering of games, but so far I am still very happy with the PS3.

The PS2 did not dominate the market in its first year either, but we know where that went....

When I look out my window here at work, Sony has an office right across the street :)

[hyghwayman]

answer to this ? Get 1 of each, with a 30 day no ? asked return policy. Keep the one you like and return the others.

hyghwayman

[Matt34]

The PS3 has to come down in price, and right away. The games look pretty, but if no one buys the console, it's not going to make it very long. They need to make the developers happy first, and no one wants to spend 20 million dollars to develop a game if there isn't a large enough console base to make it profitable. They didn't have one software title in the top 20 in march, which is amazing considering its a new console and there are only a few games out.

My prediction: You'll see a much lower cost PS3 (~$350) come out well before the holidays. It's the only way it's going to survive.

I don't see how they can charge any less. Sony is losing more than $250 on every PS3 sold right now.

[hyghwayman]

I don't see how they can charge any less. Sony is losing more than $250 on every PS3 sold right now.

Wow $250.oo, I thought they were breaking even, LoL. Now that's a FUNNY!:rolleyes:

[abboudc]

I don't see how they can charge any less. Sony is losing more than $250 on every PS3 sold right now.

Well, they've put themselves in a difficult situation. They've spent hundreds of millions on R&D for the console. They're losing money on each sale. However, if they don't drop the price, they face the very real possibility of finishing 3rd this time around, which means less games sold, which is how they were going to make up the loss to begin with.

The latest NPD data (April) only had one PS3 game in the top 20. Worse, the PS3 dropped below 10k sales for a week for the first time ever (for PS1, 2 or 3) - in Japan!

They need to do something to get more in the hands of gamers, and fast. The cost to build will come down, but not as fast as they need it to. I saw two or three huge developers announcing they were cancelling ps3 games to "redeploy" the teams to work on Wii.

Sometimes you need to cut off the leg to save the patient.

[emorphien]

I've actually come across quite a few people lately who are having a ball with their Wiis, including a lot of the games that are out now. I don't think they've had enough defining games out to really show the system off yet, but it seems there are quite a few people out there who don't share that sentiment and who love the Wii.

[mech]

Some, not all. From what I've read, the biggest ones like MGS4 will be PS3 exclusive. A few will be exclusive, but a few of the more popular ones will go to both; however some will be on one or the other first for a while.

How about Halo 3? Seriously PS3 has nothing even close to that type of hype of the third installment. While MGS4 might be cool and people are hyped, it's nowhere near on the same planet.

I also disagree with your comment, most of the big games will be on both consoles.

To me the breakdown is this, both PS3 and XBOX 360 are great consoles, but are known for different types of games. If you are into FPS's then I would choose XBOX, if you like all of those odd Japanese games and more RPG's then go with the PS3. Both will have most the same big name titles when they come out anyway.

Now the only thing I would start to think about is the next generation. Obvisouly Mr. Gates slapped the hell out of SONY this round, and will have a head start on the next gen console. It's like the roles have reversed from the last generation, I could remember when XBOX had a bit better graphics but less games.

[mikeyj92]

Now the only thing I would start to think about is the next generation. Obvisouly Mr. Gates slapped the hell out of SONY this round, and will have a head start on the next gen console. It's like the roles have reversed from the last generation, I could remember when XBOX had a bit better graphics but less games.
What is your view of the lack of HDD's in all 360's or the limitations to games being on a standard DVD as opposed to all PS3's having HDD's built in and games being able to be on BD discs? Think that will have any bearing on where these machines stand 2 years from now or do you think the facts games increase in size every year will cease to be fact?

I am a 360 owner, but the limitations like these, which I think are very important and will shape the future of this "war", are being severely under-estimated at this point in time.

GTA VI, when it comes out, will NEED data storage space on both a HDD and on the disc it is delivered on. How will the 360 version ever hope to keep up with that developers can put on Sony hardware? Compression techniques will only get you SO FAR.

[j_garcia]

I also disagree with your comment, most of the big games will be on both consoles.

Maybe you didn't read close enough...I clearly said the more popular titles will end up on both. This is how it was for the PS2/Xbox, though some titles came out first on one and then on the other.

I am not a big FPS fan and sorry to say it, but I really don't like Halo so that has no bearing on me. To me it is just that, HYPE. Metal Gear Solid is one of the best series ever done on any console. MGS3 is unlike any other game that I have played and really pushed what a console game is capable of; which is why MGS4 is one of the most highly anticipated games for the PS3.

He is correct though, going forward the next Xbox will again have the upper hand because they will know exactly what they are up against in the PS3 and they will also have to be looking at HD-DVD levels of storage, which means either built in HD-DVD drive or a big hard drive. I completely agree that people seem to be missing the simple fact that you can literally fit 5X the amount of data on a BluRay disc vs a DVD and this alone makes a HUGE difference before you even get to the graphics and processing hardware.

[abboudc]

GTA VI, when it comes out, will NEED data storage space on both a HDD and on the disc it is delivered on. How will the 360 version ever hope to keep up with that developers can put on Sony hardware? Compression techniques will only get you SO FAR.

... people seem to be missing the simple fact that you can literally fit 5X the amount of data on a BluRay disc vs a DVD and this alone makes a HUGE difference before you even get to the graphics and processing hardware.

Um...they can just release a multidisc game...

How about Halo 3? Seriously PS3 has nothing even close to that type of hype of the third installment. While MGS4 might be cool and people are hyped, it's nowhere near on the same planet.

In the US, true. Japan is just as big a gaming market though and they completely ignore FPS. Final Fantasy will do the same thing, relatively as Halo here.

[davo]

Um...they can just release a multidisc game...

If M$ are going to be relying on multi-disk games as a way of going forward they might as well grab hold of their ankles an kiss their a$$ good bye!!

There is NOTHING more irritating than having to swap out disks mid-game.

[mikeyj92]

Um...they can just release a multidisc game...




That is funny.

A multi-disk GTA game where depending on where you drive in the city, you have a load in a certain disk once you cross a certain street...and if you turn around, you have to immediately get up and pop the other disk back in....not to mention you need to save before every disk ejection, AND hope that shitty disk tray in our 360 holds up to the sudden HUGE rise in the amount it is open and shut.

Oy.

Next gen gaming where one console has multi-disk gaming and the other doesn't. Nothing like ruining immersion with random "you must save your game and insert disk #2" messages mid-game.

[abboudc]

It'd be dumb to make one part of the city on one disc and one on others, but transitioning to another disc midway through the game ala Grandia or Shenmue isn't unheard of.

Consequently, i read today that Halo3 CE may be on multiple discs. There are 3 discs in the package, and one is extras. IGN is speculating what's on the second disc...

Granted, we'd all prefer the game to be on one disc. The other option they have is to just require the hard drive.

[avaserfi]

It'd be dumb to make one part of the city on one disc and one on others, but transitioning to another disc midway through the game ala Grandia or Shenmue isn't unheard of.

Consequently, i read today that Halo3 CE may be on multiple discs. There are 3 discs in the package, and one is extras. IGN is speculating what's on the second disc...

Granted, we'd all prefer the game to be on one disc. The other option they have is to just require the hard drive.

Highly unlikely to force users to buy an optional add-on to play a game. Even if it is halo it will drop sales pretty good. Bad move, you might as well say require HD DVD player.

[abboudc]

Since the CE is the only multidisc one, it's speculated to be extra content that's not the main game.

Of course, this is the same company that wants you to shell out $129 for a "Legendary Edition" of a game and $129 for a racing wheel, so all bets are off.

[mech]

The issue and argument that I keep hearing is where PS3 and the 360 will be in two to three years. My point is that it will take PS3 that long to catch up after it's total blunder, and then the next version of the XBOX will already be getting ready for release or at least very close to the release. Oh and to say that final fantasy 20 or is it 30, is just as anticipated as Halo 3 is just a joke! Seriously you can't believe that argument can you? I like Halo okay, but I have to be honest and say that there is no game on any console that is more hyped.

By the way, I am not trying to stir the pot, but just pointing out the facts boys. As I have said before, we all want to feel that the purchases we have made are always the best, but they aren’t always. Both systems are cool it’s just that both of the major companies have swapped roles from their last console releases. I can remember sitting and playing a game of pong just waiting for the PS2 load up between screens, and thinking how much more technically advanced the XBOX was.

[gene]

As an XBOX 360 owner, I will never buy another Microsoft gaming console again. I and most of my friends and peers have had too many reliability issues with this platform. Also, one particular game I have - Star Trek Legacy, is far too buggy. This is unacceptable from any modern gaming system, let alone one as pricey as this.

[rgriffin25]

Personally, I wouldn't care if Xbox 360 used floppy discs for its media type. Who really cares if the games are currently available on regular DVD or Blu-ray? I think Gears of War looks fantastic!

Yes I understand the future implementations of the current optical media used by microsoft. With technology is moving so fast will the xbox or PS3 really have that long of a shelf life?

One thing no one else has pointed out is how great Xbox live is. It is amazingly easy to use and you can get hd movies and old school video games too boot.

I don't doubt that the PS3 is a technical masterpiece, but w/o the software it doesn't look any better than the Xbox 360 sitting on a shelf.

[davo]

... but w/o the software it doesn't look any better than the Xbox 360 sitting on a shelf.

These days I thought Xbox 360's were stopping doors open or weighing down paper!?!

I must be mistaken..;)

[mikeyj92]

The issue and argument that I keep hearing is where PS3 and the 360 will be in two to three years. My point is that it will take PS3 that long to catch up after it's total blunder, and then the next version of the XBOX will already be getting ready for release or at least very close to the release. Oh and to say that final fantasy 20 or is it 30, is just as anticipated as Halo 3 is just a joke! Seriously you can't believe that argument can you? I like Halo okay, but I have to be honest and say that there is no game on any console that is more hyped.

By the way, I am not trying to stir the pot, but just pointing out the facts boys. As I have said before, we all want to feel that the purchases we have made are always the best, but they aren’t always. Both systems are cool it’s just that both of the major companies have swapped roles from their last console releases. I can remember sitting and playing a game of pong just waiting for the PS2 load up between screens, and thinking how much more technically advanced the XBOX was.


What's funny to me is people are "claiming the death" of the PS3 when it is only half a year into it's life. Half a year.

We all know it is harder to program/develop for. We all know it costs a bit more than the Elite (not much more though). We all know you get more for your money in a PS3. We all know it is made better than the 360 (has any video game console been made worse?). We all know the 360's best feature over the PS3 is XBL. What IF PSNetwork works and works well?

Why the rush to claim the PS3 is dead?

All gamers should want two viable, fun, exciting gaming consoles out there competing head-to-head, we will benefit from this "battle".

Could you imagine if the 360 was the ONLY next gen console of choice? Look at how they nickle-and-dime us 360 owners now, imagine how bad Bill & Co. would rape us if they had this monopoly too.

[abboudc]

Oh and to say that final fantasy 20 or is it 30, is just as anticipated as Halo 3 is just a joke! Seriously you can't believe that argument can you? I like Halo okay, but I have to be honest and say that there is no game on any console that is more hyped.


Except that the largest gaming market in the world - Japan, which ignores FPS (including Halo3) completely. As a matter of fact they pretty much ignore the Xbox too. Go over there and asked them the most hyped game, they'll tell you Dragon Quest or FF. FF has a substantial audience here too.

In the US there's no game more hyped than Halo 3. The point was, each, in their home market have a very hyped game that will drive sales. Check out the NPD data or Famitsu data and you'll see how different the charts are (but the actual volumes are similar).

By the way, I am not trying to stir the pot, but just pointing out the facts boys. As I have said before, we all want to feel that the purchases we have made are always the best, but they aren’t always.

BTW, i own a 360 and not a PS3.

[abboudc]

As an XBOX 360 owner, I will never buy another Microsoft gaming console again. I and most of my friends and peers have had too many reliability issues with this platform. Also, one particular game I have - Star Trek Legacy, is far too buggy. This is unacceptable from any modern gaming system, let alone one as pricey as this.


Agreed. this is the first console i've ever had i had to replace less than a year into it's lifecycle (my first one wasn't a "launch" console either, i got it in mid '06). The hardware team should never be allowed to design anything ever again.

[j_garcia]

I don't doubt that the PS3 is a technical masterpiece, but w/o the software it doesn't look any better than the Xbox 360 sitting on a shelf.

Funny you should say that, since that is EXACTLY what we said about the 360 when it first came out and had no games...

[avaserfi]

Everyone is making to much a fuss over this console war just because it started out differently than most. For once the systems are all pretty different.

The wii is underpowered but geared to a whole other demographic: the casual gamer.

The 360 had a huge headstart so developers already know how to do well with it and it has a huge fan and game base (atleast in the states). The 360 also has the great ability to keep your family warm when it burns down your house, or alteast it will keep your room warm when it overheats.

PS3 is more expensive and hasn't sold as well yet, but for some reason analysts seem to think it will win the war, still (articles released this week still pick it as the winner in 2010). It has games coming just like any new console and just like the wii with its load of crappy games out right now. The difference is people can pick a Wii up now and not have felt bad for spending 600 on something that doesn't have a ton of blockbuster games.

Normally all the consoles have come out near eachother or if one came out early most all of its sales were pushed by the fact that it did come out early and nothing else.