Transformers trailer

[Buckeyefan 1]

Check out the trailer. The bass sounds awesome. Comes out 7-4-07.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html

[mardelgo]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: : :D :D :D :D :. That was the "child in me" reaction. Sound awesome in my Logitech Z2300.

[mike c]

sounds spectacular on my polks and velodyne :)

i hate these teaser trailers ...

[Sheep]

This movie had the potential to be amazing, but Michael Bay ****ed the whole thing up, making Megatron look like a mega douche, and making all the other cars different makes and models (my guess going to the highest bidder).

So p'd off.

At least Peter Jackson is making Halo...

SheepStar

[mtrycrafts]

Check out the trailer. The bass sounds awesome. Comes out 7-4-07.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html


Saw it at the matinee today. Looks impressive. !:D

[racquetman]

So p'd off.

At least Peter Jackson is making Halo...

SheepStar

Then you will probably be even more p'd off to find out that the Halo movie is on hold. If and when PJ makes it is up in the air right now, the last I had read anyway.

As for the Transformers movie, I think they should have left the characters the same (as you said Sheep). Bay and Hollywood will mess this up for sure. My expectations are low, low, low . . . . (like ho, ho, ho - because of Christmas, get it :D )

[mike c]

i'm wondering where star scream and the other fighter jets are ... they are after all the fanciest "transformers"

[WmAx]

Since Hollywood ruins *almost* every re-make or similar(movies based on old television shows or comics), it's hard to expect this movie to be good, especially to many fans of the original series and movie from the 80's, of which this new movie is supposedly based upon. But, sometimes Hollywood screws up and makes something nice, so there is some small measure of hope, despite the severe distortion of original character physical likenesses. It might even turn out to be a great movie for people whom are not familiar with the original story, but I think any major changes to the original story/history will turn off many of the original fans, regardless of the quality of the movie, overall. A good example would be the Beast Machines Transformers television series from around 2000. It was a very good production in it's own right, probably the best one of the Transformers series in visuals and overall execution, but it completely disregarded the original story lines, eventually re-writing nearly everything. It was especially annoying because it was supposedly a continuance of the Beast Wars Transformers series, but Beast Wars writers carefully respected the original story from the 80's series, being careful not to re-write the origin/history. Since Beast Machines, they gave up on any kind of continuance or adhesion to the 80's storyline, instead making up completely new alternate 'universes' for series introduced after Beast Machines.

-Chris

[Sheep]

Then you will probably be even more p'd off to find out that the Halo movie is on hold. If and when PJ makes it is up in the air right now, the last I had read anyway.

As for the Transformers movie, I think they should have left the characters the same (as you said Sheep). Bay and Hollywood will mess this up for sure. My expectations are low, low, low . . . . (like ho, ho, ho - because of Christmas, get it :D )

You need to check imdb.com more often. It says it's in production now.

Here's some photo's of the transformers for the movie.

http://www.3dblasphemy.com/OPTIMUS_HR.jpg

http://www.3dblasphemy.com/BLUE.jpg

http://www.3dblasphemy.com/TRUCK_HR.jpg

SheepStar

[racquetman]

You need to check imdb.com more often. It says it's in production now.

SheepStar

You need to "read" what it says actually says on imdb. Under status updated we have a 31 October, 2006. That is quickly approaching 2 months old.

If you want more up to date info, try going to google news or similar and typing in "Halo movie".

Here is an excerpt from Askmen.com updated on Dec. 11th

"There has been a lot of buzz around the development and production of Halo and most reports have been positive... until recently. Much to the chagrin of Halo fans everywhere, the latest reports indicate that production has been put on hold."

In fact, right in the comments on imdb it says the project is postponed!!

[mtrycrafts]

This movie had the potential to be amazing, but Michael Bay ****ed the whole thing up, making Megatron look like a mega douche, and making all the other cars different makes and models (my guess going to the highest bidder).

So p'd off.

At least Peter Jackson is making Halo...

SheepStar


Will those make a big difference to those who didn't follow the animated versions of the past?
Is that Halo another video game made into a movie?

[Clint DeBoer]

I'm pretty sure those screenshots you have (Optimus) are old and not accurate.

[darien87]

All it took for me to think this movie was going to suck, was seeing production stills of Optimus Prime as blue with orange flames. Gimme a break. But the trailer actually looks decent. Then again, they can make just about any piece of crap look good in a trailer.

[mikeyj92]

There was a preview of this flick prior to Night at the Museum yesterday...it actually looked decent...but trailers can be FAR from reality when it comes down to go time.

I'm curious at this point, nothing more.

[Clint DeBoer]

I hate to pre-judge, but from what I've seen so far this will be a high action, entertaining movie that throws a nod to fans and nothing more. The characters are so changed and overly complex in their design that this might be better named "Morphormers".

They should have given this project (and final decision-making authority) to someone who was a big fan of the Generation 1 characters and storyline. As is, it seems to have some familiar names, a similar title hero character and then complete design deviation throughout the main Decepticon lineup.

[Jedi2016]

Sheep... you've been had. Those "screenshots" of yours are, in fact, fan-made, from several years ago, before this movie had even been announced. The transformers in the film look nothing like what you posted, nothing like any Transformer has ever looked before.

[Sheep]

Sheep... you've been had. Those "screenshots" of yours are, in fact, fan-made, from several years ago, before this movie had even been announced. The transformers in the film look nothing like what you posted, nothing like any Transformer has ever looked before.

Well they were the only thing I was able to pull up. I've seen the Bay version of megatron. GAY! I remember seeing a red and blue optimus from a friend but I don't remember what page it was from. If I remember correctly it was not true to form.

SheepStar

[stratman]

Hey,

Does anyone know if Mater and Lightning have a role?

[Sheep]

Bumble Bee
http://www.harbx.com/images/desktop/transformers/bumblebeeboards_1280x1024_1.jpg

Prime
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n215/bonewire/bum2.jpg

Megatron is pretty hard to find now. I'll post a pic once I find one.

SheepStar

[Sheep]

New Trailer!

Much better then the previous versions. It contains much more transformer content, as well as fighting scenes.

http://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/Transformers/1808716430/trailers/31/180

CLICK THE TRAILER THAT RUNS FOR 2:32!!!! THIS IS THE NEW ONE!

SheepStar

[jeffsg4mac]

I have pretty much decided that the CGI is going to suck. This would have been a prefect film for computer enhanced stop motion with real models. Having said that, I think it looks fun and my youngest can't wait. He loves the cartoons and toys.

Lets hope for an Imax 3D version though :)

[Matt34]

New Trailer!

Much better then the previous versions. It contains much more transformer content, as well as fighting scenes.

http://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/Transformers/1808716430/trailers/31/180

CLICK THE TRAILER THAT RUNS FOR 2:32!!!! THIS IS THE NEW ONE!

SheepStar


That was a much better trailer!!

[Warpdrv]

I think some of you guys fail to think about whats important here....

This movie has and will have some incredible bass tracks.... :eek: :eek:
I have already uploaded the trailers to my XBMC and played them through my system... OMG...

Who actually gives a crap about this movie... its content will be rediculus & won't be worth your money... I think that is easy enough to say here...

But... the BASS is extra-ordinary !!!!


Well Thats all I give a cr@p about here... hehheheh

Warp

[Sheep]

I think some of you guys fail to think about whats important here....

This movie has and will have some incredible bass tracks.... :eek: :eek:
I have already uploaded the trailers to my XBMC and played them through my system... OMG...

Who actually gives a crap about this movie... its content will be rediculus & won't be worth your money... I think that is easy enough to say here...

But... the BASS is extra-ordinary !!!!


Well Thats all I give a cr@p about here... hehheheh

Warp

This is the only part of your post that I agree with. I've downloaded the 480p trailer and played the audio over my stereo. It's insane. There is SO much bass, and it sounds very well done. The CGI also is awesome. I don't know how you could say it's crap, the whole movie is based on cars turning into robots; cheap out and it will flop.

SheepStar

[gene]

Saw the trailer and as an avid Transformers fan from childhood, I will go see the movie. Kinda pisses me off how they made Megatron look and I wished they would have stayed closer to the original cartoon.

In any event, I am looking forward so long as the storyline is good and the acting isn't weak.

[mike c]

Saw the trailer and as an avid Transformers fan from childhood, I will go see the movie. Kinda pisses me off how they made Megatron look and I wished they would have stayed closer to the original cartoon.

In any event, I am looking forward so long as the storyline is good and the acting isn't weak.

so, you want megatron to be the size of a human sized pistol when transformed, or a giant pistol cannon, the size of the robots? :) :D

because in the cartoons (old ones), megatron was as big as sound wave, but when he transformed, he became as small as a pistol.

I think there was also a time when megatron still became a pistol, but really big.

then there was the PC type of transformers where megatron just became a cannon. (purple colored one)

[gene]

so, you want megatron to be the size of a human sized pistol when transformed, or a giant pistol cannon, the size of the robots?

because in the cartoons (old ones), megatron was as big as sound wave, but when he transformed, he became as small as a pistol.

I think there was also a time when megatron still became a pistol, but really big.

then there was the PC type of transformers where megatron just became a cannon. (purple colored one)

Yea the size issues of the old shows were a bit annoying, though not so much when I was 11 years old :)

I don't mind him being a Jet, Tank, Bug etc, but I really wanted his robot form to look similar to the cartoon. The pics I saw recently make him look more like the aliens from Indepedence Day. :(

[Clint DeBoer]

Everything seems overly complex to me... Why does Starscream have to look so stupidly out of sorts... It's almost like the robot forms are a head surrounded by a bunch of exploded parts.

[Lady Phoenix]

I think some of you guys fail to think about whats important here....

This movie has and will have some incredible bass tracks.... :eek: :eek:
I have already uploaded the trailers to my XBMC and played them through my system... OMG...

Who actually gives a crap about this movie... its content will be rediculus & won't be worth your money... I think that is easy enough to say here...

But... the BASS is extra-ordinary !!!!


Well Thats all I give a cr@p about here... hehheheh

Warp

You *do* have a point: This is the audioholics forum, afterall! :D

I saw the new trailer during Heros last night and thought the CGI didn't look half bad, but even in the trailer the bass was rockin'.

[gene]

Everything seems overly complex to me... Why does Starscream have to look so stupidly out of sorts... It's almost like the robot forms are a head surrounded by a bunch of exploded parts.

I don't think Starscream is in the movie. From what I recall in an interview, the only cannon characters are: Optimus, Iron Hide, Megatron, Bumblebee, and Scorponik.

[jonnythan]

I don't like how the models appear to have millions of parts either. It's like super-complicated machinery with the sheet metal from a car/plane/whatever bolted over.

I would have much preferred models that look more like the vehicles or machines they transform into, like the model of Prime on the first page.

Oh well.

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

This movie has and will have some incredible bass tracks.... :eek: :eek:

Eh, we've already got 3 dozen shitty movies on DVD that only have a gimmicky LFE channel as their only saving grace. Did they really need to overhaul a perfectly good franchise (which already had a great movie) just so GM could have one last hurrah before Hyundai wipes their *** with them?

[Rock&Roll Ninja]

I love how '***' is censored but not 'shitty' :D

[Clint DeBoer]

I don't think Starscream is in the movie.You're right - shucks!

[gene]

Now this is classic Transformers at their finest. Prime kicks butt :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bq1_6D9QS9Y&mode=related&search=

[Sheep]

Starscream is in the movie.

Courtesy of Vancouver Civics...

Bumblebee
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/000ab_bumblebee.jpg

Jazz
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/000ab_jazz.jpg

Blackout
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/000ab_blackout.jpg

Iron Hide
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/000ab_ironhide.jpg

Frenzy (part of barricade)
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/000ab_zfrenzy.jpg

Starscream
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/000ab_starscream.jpg

Megatron
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/000ab_amegatron.jpg

Optimus Prime
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/000ab_aoptimus.jpg

These are the REAL renderings.

SheepStar

[gene]

Odd that Optimus and Bumblebee would have color while the others don't. The movie trailer shows a robot exiting a swimming pool with a cycloptic eye looking to resemble Shockwave but I know he isn't in it. I was figuring it must have been Iron Hide since he didn't kill the little girl, but the pic Sheep shows of Iron Hide looks much different.

[jonnythan]

The Decepticons seem to be mostly silver I guess?

I dunno. Most of them look like random piles of metal bits with a tire or windshield thrown in. More like something from Katamari Damacy than Transformers.

[Sheep]

These are realistic transformers. I like this more. Yes, some are butchered (Optimus should have been a flat fronted truck) but this is a update, as well as a remake. That previous truck was made in 1984, its 2007.

These pictures are only some of the transformers, there is much more, so the one you saw could still be someone else.

And just to let your know, they will have voices. Megatron is played by Hugo Weaving. Optimus is Peter Cullen.

SheepStar

[jonnythan]

Realistic? Look at Megatron. He's a giant pile of metal shards that don't appear to fit together in any way. There's no obvious mechanism for movement.

Bumblebee and Prime look pretty good, but most of the Decepticons look more like aliens than machines. Random metal protrusions in a vaguely humanoid shape don't make a good Transformer IMO.

Oh well. I'll still see it and probably love it.

[Sheep]

Realistic? Look at Megatron. He's a giant pile of metal shards that don't appear to fit together in any way. There's no obvious mechanism for movement.

Bumblebee and Prime look pretty good, but most of the Decepticons look more like aliens than machines. Random metal protrusions in a vaguely humanoid shape don't make a good Transformer IMO.

Oh well. I'll still see it and probably love it.

Megatron isn't a car, he's an Alein Jet... here.

http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2006/08/megatron1.jpg

This is him in vehicle mode. He doesn't stray that far this. These transformers have to have mechanical parts that function. Big rectangular legs and square bodies with the random hints of a vehicle are things of the past. This shows that the vehicle is only a shell, not part of the robot itself.

SheepStar

[jonnythan]

I know Megatron is a jet in this version.

Prime and Bumblebee have apparent mechanisms for movement. Gears and that kind of thing. Jazz looks pretty OK too. Starscream maybe. But Megatron just looks awful. There's no conceivable engineering reason for the dozens of random metal protrusions and excessively scrambled shell pieces that don't even look like they fit together.

It looks excessively organic. I just don't like it. We can disagree :)

[Sheep]

I know Megatron is a jet in this version.

Prime and Bumblebee have apparent mechanisms for movement. Gears and that kind of thing. Jazz looks pretty OK too. Starscream maybe. But Megatron just looks awful. There's no conceivable engineering reason for the dozens of random metal protrusions and excessively scrambled shell pieces that don't even look like they fit together.

It looks excessively organic. I just don't like it. We can disagree :)

Remember, he's Alien. Maybe the designers just got lazy figured if they make him alien they won't have to make it look possible. lawl.

SheepStar

[Clint DeBoer]

That's almost exactly it - they don't appear to be realistic. In an effort to be "more" realistic, they kind of screwed it up. We KNOW how things work - simple is better (not to mention more reliable).

The plastic toys WORKED. With slight modifications, the Transformers could actually look like they functioned. Instead, Megatron and even the Jet thing (I still don't see StarScream in the imdb credits) looks like they have so many moving parts that they are fragile.

Plus I HATE the concept of metal bending... Come-on, did they really have to bend metal to make the robots work? That alone is a major pet peeve. Sheet metal doesn't bend very well - the idea that it will bend, unbend, multiple times per day - and hold its shape/integrity is ridiculous.

This movie will be action-packed, but they really screwed up the designs. Prime looks good, Bumblebee is OK... maybe everyone else will die and the sequel can look better. lol. Megatron is the real joke. Looks like a robotic pile of spaghetti - did he emerge from a trash heap?

[gene]

Plus I HATE the concept of metal bending... Come-on, did they really have to bend metal to make the robots work? That alone is a major pet peeve. Sheet metal doesn't bend very well - the idea that it will bend, unbend, multiple times per day - and hold its shape/integrity is ridiculous.

It is highly doubtful an advanced alien robotic race would use sheet metal. In our present time, we already have Memory Metal technology that can restore to its normal shape after being heated. Perhaps they have an even more advanced version of this metal. If so, it would be cool if they literally "heated" up while transforming making them untouchable for a short time until their bodies cooled off :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_memory_alloy

[Clint DeBoer]

"Shape memory alloys are well known for being around 100 times weaker than modern-day steel, so with this comparison they are very weak for the construction industries and other places where steel is dominant."

At least when they are defeated, they can be melted down for use as dental braces or eyeglass frames... jk.

[jeffsg4mac]

What I think is funny is that we are talking about alien robots from another planet that can transform into other shapes, and we all want it to be REALISTIC? :D lol:)

[Sheep]

Ok, I'm going to see this movie tonight. Has anyone seen it yet?

SheepStar

[robmlisanti]

Ok, I'm going to see this movie tonight. Has anyone seen it yet?

SheepStar


I work in the comic book business, and 4 of the people from work saw it already, everyone enjoyed it alot, 2 people have said there going again this weekend to see it again!...I guess it must be pretty good then, i'm going Thursday :D

[Sheep]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!

This movie, is simply amazing... If you've seen 300, take all the awesomeness, and transform it. ALL THE AUTOBOTS CAN TALK! THEY ALL TALK!

Seriously.... I'm breathing hard, I won't be able to sleep! The movie is long, but it never feels like it dragged. The CGI is perfect. What you watch, is a car, turn into a robot. Not a computer turn a car into a robot, a car, willingly turn itself into a robot.

I'm seeing it again within 5 days. It's sooo freaking awesome, and I had a bad seat... my neck it sore, and I keep twitching, but i don't care, I'd sit there again just to see it.

Clint, take your theories and stuff it :P They in my opinion, did a homage to the old ones, by modernizing it, and not making it suck. Yeah yeah, they're different cars. But do you really want a transformers movie center in the 1980s? No.

And to let you know, there isn't anything at the very end of the credits, so don't wait through them, there is one last clip that will be VERY important, and once that passes, you can leave.

SheepStar

[Sheep]

Oh I forgot to mention...


BAAAASSSSS BAAAAAASSSS BAAAAASSSSSS

SheepStar

[Clint DeBoer]

Stop it, you're making me start to be optimistic.

[gene]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!

This movie, is simply amazing... If you've seen 300, take all the awesomeness, and transform it. ALL THE AUTOBOTS CAN TALK! THEY ALL TALK!

Glad to hear this. Rotten Tomatoes gave it fairly positive reviews and they hate almost everything. While it may lack the charm and nostalgia of the old G1 show and movie, I am sure the lack of messed up animation of dual Starscreams, Spike carrying a giant robot transformed into a casette deck in one hand, Megatron moving Cybertron instantly to earth, and every other law of physics and common sense violated won't be missed. It will however be refreshing for it to be a bit more real and dark as the clips portray.

Regardless of what the critics say, I am going to see this next week with friends and family including a friend of mine whom I've known since childhood. The energy of the audience alone is likely worth the price of admission. I can't wait!

[majorloser]

Let you know how it was in a couple hours :p

[majorloser]

Right now I'm playing the on-line game.
http://transformersgame.com/battle/index.html

[Sheep]

Glad to hear this. Rotten Tomatoes gave it fairly positive reviews and they hate almost everything. While it may lack the charm and nostalgia of the old G1 show and movie, I am sure the lack of messed up animation of dual Starscreams, Spike carrying a giant robot transformed into a casette deck in one hand, Megatron moving Cybertron instantly to earth, and every other law of physics and common sense violated won't be missed. It will however be refreshing for it to be a bit more real and dark as the clips portray.

Regardless of what the critics say, I am going to see this next week with friends and family including a friend of mine whom I've known since childhood. The energy of the audience alone is likely worth the price of admission. I can't wait!

There is parts where Optimus and Megatron quote lines from the original movie. We were clapping, the whole theater was clapping. The dialog between all the characters is also quite witty, and it makes the non actions scene entertaining.

SheepStar

[Matt34]

Let you know how it was in a couple hours :p


Heading out to catch an afternoon showing now.:D

[avaserfi]

I hate all of you guys! I try to avoid the theaters here at all costs because well they suck major ***! The only time I go is when my girl drags me or if its the dollar theater and I have friends insisting. I was planning on just netflixing this movie but you people keep talking about how awesome it is and now I am tempted to go to the theater infact if I hadn't had a bad experience on Monday I probably would have seen it already especially with people like sheep drooling over it.

[Sheep]

I hate all of you guys! I try to avoid the theaters here at all costs because well they suck major ***! The only time I go is when my girl drags me or if its the dollar theater and I have friends insisting. I was planning on just netflixing this movie but you people keep talking about how awesome it is and now I am tempted to go to the theater infact if I hadn't had a bad experience on Monday I probably would have seen it already especially with people like sheep drooling over it.

That's SheepStar to you.

SheepStar

[WmAx]

Disappointing. The show focuses on human characters, not the Transformers. The Transformers seem to be used only as an excuse for dazzling action scenes. This movie is about 95% action. Typical mindless Hollywood script. I really can't say how the movie relates to the G1 story; since so little story/history was actually covered. There were some minor changes that were obvious, but anything major? I don't know. Frankly, this movie was all action. Story took a distance 2nd place here. If I had not been with someone else, I would have walked out about 1/2 way through due to boredom(mindless action does not usually satisfy me).

-Chris

[Sheep]

Disappointing. The show focuses on human characters, not the Transformers. The Transformers seem to be used only as an excuse for dazzling action scenes. This movie is about 95% action. Typical mindless Hollywood script. I really can't say how the movie relates to the G1 story; since so little story/history was actually covered. There were some minor changes that were obvious, but anything major? I don't know. Frankly, this movie was all action. Story took a distance 2nd place here. If I had not been with someone else, I would have walked out about 1/2 way through due to boredom(mindless action does not usually satisfy me).

-Chris

There we go.

SheepStar

[Clint DeBoer]

Saw it this afternoon. Here is my mixed review on AVRant.com:

http://www.avrant.com/?p=121

Register and comment - I want to hear what you guys think...

[jeffsg4mac]

I took my youngest to see it on tuesday. He loved it and I thought it was ok. I was very quickly reminded why I don't go to the theaters any more. The sound and picture sucked big time. We are supposed to be getting an IMAX multiplex soon so I hope it will be better then. The movie will be a reference DVD for sure. I can see this really testing systems if they mix it right. I thought it was a lot more fun than Independence Day if that means anything.

[jeffsg4mac]

Saw it this afternoon. Here is my mixed review on AVRant.com:

http://www.avrant.com/?p=121

Register and comment - I want to hear what you guys think...

Clint,

I pretty much agree with your assessment. There were some parts where I thought WOW! and others were I thought " o good grief charlie brown"

and they killed off Megatron not Prime:) (PS. It was a joke, Jeff)

[Matt34]

I'm going to have to catch it another day, all sold out.

[Seth=L]

Did anyone catch the Strange teaser for codename "Cloverfield"? The teaser was all in video cam, the end shows no title. It looks interesting, and is probably the most enticing teaser I have seen. But then I found out the whole film is supposed to be filmed, or depicted as filmed, with the use of a home video camera from the view of citizens of New York City.:confused:

[Sheep]

Did anyone catch the Strange teaser for codename "Cloverfield"? The teaser was all in video cam, the end shows no title. It looks interesting, and is probably the most enticing teaser I have seen. But then I found out the whole film is supposed to be filmed, or depicted as filmed, with the use of a home video camera from the view of citizens of New York City.:confused:

I think that's going to be another godzilla movie.

EDIT: It is, its a godzilla movie filmed from home cameras.

SheepStar

[Seth=L]

I think that's going to be another godzilla movie.

EDIT: It is, its a godzilla movie filmed from home cameras.

SheepStar
Can you verify this is true through some link?

That my initial thought as well, being that it was Neuve York and there was roaring and fire. The Statue of Liberty's head is what is confusing me. If this is a sequal to the Godzilla that was based in NY that was made a few years ago, then the throwing the Statue of Liberty's head doesn't really make much sense. Oh well, I guess I will see when it comes out, or when I see some evidence leading to what the film is supposed to be about.;)

[Sheep]

Can you verify this is true through some link?

That my initial thought as well, being that it was Neuve York and there was roaring and fire. The Statue of Liberty's head is what is confusing me. If this is a sequal to the Godzilla that was based in NY that was made a few years ago, then the throwing the Statue of Liberty's head doesn't really make much sense. Oh well, I guess I will see when it comes out, or when I see some evidence leading to what the film is supposed to be about.;)

www.imdb.com

Type Cloverfield in the search, it's all there.

SheepStar

[Seth=L]

www.imdb.com

Type Cloverfield in the search, it's all there.

SheepStar
I hope it is just conjecture, but it seems like the real deal.:( I think it would be cool if they just threw the "godzilla" thing out there to mislead people and then surprise people with something else. I have always thought that would be a good idea. It is really hard to surprise people with big blockbuster films like Transformers, Independence Day, or Godzilla, because they get so much attention and people are really wanting to know what it is about.:D

[Sheep]

Saw it this afternoon. Here is my mixed review on AVRant.com:

http://www.avrant.com/?p=121

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Character Development
This movie was very human-centric and spent more time on setting up Sam (almost never called ‘Spike’ to my surprise) and his relationship with his parents and soon-to-be girlfriend. The dialogue was fine, but mostly lacking. It seemed as if every time the humans spoke I wished they would shut up (especially Sam’s mother) and every time the Transformers spoke I wanted more. We got the setup for Sam Witwicki. We got some background on the heroine. We even got background on Sam’s relatives and some insight into his parents. What we did not get was a lot of background on the real reason everyone came to see the movie - the Autobots and Decepticons. They simply existed, were introduced (Autobots through Prime and Decepticons through closed-caption-style text as they received their orders later into the movie), and did their thing with no r4ason for anyone in the audience to care one way or the other about them - not really, anyway. It’s because we know so much about them already (through years of television) that the audience was able to fill in the pieces.

Did you sleep through the giant introduction? Optimus explained the entire reason why the 2 parties existed, and why they came to earth.

SheepStar

[Seth=L]

Did you sleep through the giant introduction? Optimus explained the entire reason why the 2 parties existed, and why they came to earth.

SheepStar
I think he meant throughout the coarse of the movie. The movie would have been very messed up without the "cube" intro.

[Clint DeBoer]

Did you sleep through the giant introduction? Optimus explained the entire reason why the 2 parties existed, and why they came to earth.Yes, but that's doesn't make me feel for the robots. Getting a brief VO with facts does not substitute (successfully) for any kind of character development.

[Sheep]

Yes, but that's doesn't make me feel for the robots. Getting a brief VO with facts does not substitute (successfully) for any kind of character development.

Hm, I felt bad when Bumblebee was being tortured. Maybe you're not human.

SheepStar

[Clint DeBoer]

Hm, I felt bad when Bumblebee was being tortured. Maybe you're not human.I guess you're more in touch with your feminine side, Sheep... :)

[avaserfi]

I guess you're more in touch with your feminine side, Sheep... :)

Its always nice to have a guy who can tell us if our new gear will pass WAF don't look at it as a bad side just be useful to the rest of us! :p

[gene]

The movie was awesome overall.

My (few) complaints:
Was hard to tell who was who (transformers)
Optimus could have been a bit tougher
I would have liked to see more on Cybertron

The Positives:
For once in an Alien type movie, humans kick ***!
The movie had great action and an overall good story line and good humor

This is a movie I will buy, especially if it comes on HD or Blu Ray. Next week, we will open this thread to Spoilers.

[majorloser]

This was a great movie!!!!

My only complaint was that the transformations happened so quickly you really could make out how it happened.

[Sheep]

This was a great movie!!!!

My only complaint was that the transformations happened so quickly you really could make out how it happened.

I think that's the idea :). I'm glad the old school noise was still in it.

SheepStar

[chris6878]

Hm, I felt bad when Bumblebee was being tortured. Maybe you're not human.

SheepStar

I was hurt about jazz, damn near cried. I also didnt like the prime vs megatron fight. (Did they forget what he did in the cartoon movie. Prime is no bi t ch)
One of the best movies I have ever seen. I saw it on a dlp projector in HD. Just beautiful!
AS I drove from the movie theater I was expecting the cars on the road to transform!

Also I have heard they will be doing a trilogy.
Here is the link to part two.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1055369/

[Sheep]

Also I have heard they will be doing a trilogy.
Here is the link to part two.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1055369/

Sextacular!

Yeah, jazz was... meh, they barely developed his character. Although seeing him you know.. wasn't cool. I think in the next film, there will be alot more character development regarding the robots.

SheepStar

[gene]

AS I drove from the movie theater I was expecting the cars on the road to transform!

OMG I felt the same way. In fact as I was driving home, I couldn't help to have a heavy foot and until my wife yelled at me for doing 100mph on the expressway, I didn't even realize I was speeding. Hmm... I think my Acura TL would make a great autobot :)

[Sheep]

OMG I felt the same way. In fact as I was driving home, I couldn't help to have a heavy foot and until my wife yelled at me for doing 100mph on the expressway, I didn't even realize I was speeding. Hmm... I think my Acura TL would make a great autobot :)

Yeah! Where was the NSX? I know I did a nice big burnout when I left, but I was making an illegal turn because I need to take the exit from my theater that doesn't cause my car to scrape. The transformers is just trying to say chevy, and it ain't gunna happen.

SheepStar

[chris6878]

Yeah! Where was the NSX? I know I did a nice big burnout when I left, but I was making an illegal turn because I need to take the exit from my theater that doesn't cause my car to scrape. The transformers is just trying to say chevy, and it ain't gunna happen.

SheepStar

I saw the new camaro in the autoshow in MIami about 6 months ago. IT looked awesome

[Sheep]

I saw the new camaro in the autoshow in MIami about 6 months ago. IT looked awesome

I love the rims, but the back end needs to be redone to look like a 67-69 rear end.

SheepStar

[jvm051]

Don't be suprised to see Jazz back in future installments. Jazz was a main character in the series.

[chris6878]

Don't be suprised to see Jazz back in future installments. Jazz was a main character in the series.

Damn I hope so.

[gene]

Don't be suprised to see Jazz back in future installments. Jazz was a main character in the series.

I wouldn't be too sure of that. The new movie didn't follow the storyline of G1 all that much and even the G1 movie didn't have much respect for the original characters. They killed off nearly all the main G1 autobots...

[jvm051]

I wouldn't be too sure of that. The new movie didn't follow the storyline of G1 all that much and even the G1 movie didn't have much respect for the original characters. They killed off nearly all the main G1 autobots...


Good point, I will be curious to see how Megatron comes back. Unless they are going to plan on having Starscream run the show. Could be a possible storyline for the second movie, only to have Megatron resurected at the end of Part 2 to have a all out war for the 3rd. Still don't understand why the dropped them in the ocean, when they could have crushed them. Funny part about the G1 animated movie, is after they killed Prime, the brought him back later on in the cartoon because the fans were upset.

[jvm051]

Forgot to ask, if anyone has seen the remastered G1 DVD? I have the original DVD, but the audio is poor at best, and it is pan in scan

[chris6878]

Forgot to ask, if anyone has seen the remastered G1 DVD? I have the original DVD, but the audio is poor at best, and it is pan in scan

Check this out! I got this one.
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/742/742372p1.html

[chris6878]

Good point, I will be curious to see how Megatron comes back. Unless they are going to plan on having Starscream run the show. Could be a possible storyline for the second movie, only to have Megatron resurected at the end of Part 2 to have a all out war for the 3rd. Still don't understand why the dropped them in the ocean, when they could have crushed them. Funny part about the G1 animated movie, is after they killed Prime, the brought him back later on in the cartoon because the fans were upset.

THey put him in the water to set up for part 2. Anyone notice that scorpionok was not killed.
I remember when they brought prime back. He was crazy as ****. THat **** freaked me out back in the day.

[jvm051]

Check this out! I got this one.
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/742/742372p1.html

That is the one I am talking about. How does it look? and is the sound decent. Nothing better than hearing "You got the touch" in 5.1

[Matt34]

That is the one I am talking about. How does it look? and is the sound decent. Nothing better than hearing "You got the touch" in 5.1

I picked it up a couple weeks ago, it's decent for a 20yr old animated movie but don't expect any miracles.

Where are you at in AZ?

[chris6878]

YEa its better than your copy but not amazing. But it is the best update of the movie out.

[mikeyj92]

Just saw it on Sunday...wow.

I went in ready to see some good effects...not sure how they'd make a valid story worth paying too much attention too...and I left very impressed.

I think that is about as good as a Transformers movie could have been done. Very entertaining movie. Shai is turning into one of my favorite actors and the chicks...wow. They were so hot even my wife was like, "wow, they're pretty hot".

Great movie, I really enjoyed it. (And I saw it at an Ultra Screen theater...very large screen and couch seating with trays for food/drinks. Fun time)

[gene]

********************Plot SPOILERS***************************

DO NOT READ THIS THREAD BEYOND THIS POINT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE

Ok I figure everyone on this forum has had enough time to go see this movie. If not, close this thread down, go see it, and come back :)

Firstly, I'd like to reiterate that I really enjoyed this movie. It brought to screen the characters I loved and adored as a child and it really made me rediscover my affection for Transformers in general. I've been watching the old G1 series again as a result courtesy of various online sites that host the eposides.

That being said, there were a few things in the movie that kinda irked me. I will tabluate them below:


Why was Prime such a wimp? He was owned by Megatron during every fight sequence. In the G1 show, he was always a bit stronger and more courageous than Megatron. Megatron relied on cheat tactics and deception to win. In this movie Megatron appeared to outgun, outsize and out brawn Optimus in every way possible. It left a bad feeling for me seeing Prime being dominated. Also, I felt he was too thin. the original Prime had a chest that was only rivaled by classic Arnold back in the day. This Prime looked like he needed remedial weight training classes.

He was nowhere to be found during key battle sequences, and he was too eager to kill himself to destroy the allspark rather than trying to stop Megatron first


Why was the Allspark by default making only evil lifeforms? If this brought life to all transformers, should it not have done so good and bad depending on who was using it?



Why couldn't Bay do a better job of clearly showing the characters fighting? Half the battle sequences, I couldn't tell who was who.



Iron Hide was cool, but why didn't he kick some decepticon tail? He seemed all talk and no action or did I miss something?



I noted they accidentally refered to the Decepticon tank as Devistator. Too bad they didn't edit that before releasing the movie. I wonder if they will fix that for the DVD release?


If a sequel is planned I hope they focus a bit more dialogue on the transformers and show the bond the autobots have and the despise Megatron (assuming he comes back) and Starscream have for each other, etc.

I liked the heavy involvement of the humans which made sense since the battles did take place on earth. I always hated the fact that the G1 shows almost never had humans mixed in with the battles and that when they did, the humans were almost always stupid and weak. At least in this movie, they did a great job fighting off the decepticons.

Overall this was a very good movie for what it was and it puts a smile on my face that Transformers are back and here to stay!

[Buckeye_Nut]

I'll purchase this once it's released on DVD. The transformer toys were after my time so I cant relate to it on that level, but it looks like a real humdinger of a popcorn flick.

[chris6878]

********************Plot



Why was Prime such a wimp? He was owned by Megatron during every fight sequence. In the G1 show, he was always a bit stronger and more courageous than Megatron. Megatron relied on cheat tactics and deception to win. In this movie Megatron appeared to outgun, outsize and out brawn Optimus in every way possible. It left a bad feeling for me seeing Prime being dominated. Also, I felt he was too thin. the original Prime had a chest that was only rivaled by classic Arnold back in the day. This Prime looked like he needed remedial weight training classes.

[B]I agree! That had me so pissed off. That is all I kept talking about, "why is prime just eating punches." After he served the first dude up with his sword I knew he was about to hand megatron his a.s.s.!

He was nowhere to be found during key battle sequences, and he was too eager to kill himself to destroy the allspark rather than trying to stop Megatron first

He was to eager to die! In original cartoon movie, primed took out like 5 decepticons and was beating megatron down until he had to save one of his autobots "forgot who". Bay lost cool points on that one.

Why was the Allspark by default making only evil lifeforms? If this brought life to all transformers, should it not have done so good and bad depending on who was using it?


Yea that made no sense either.


Why couldn't Bay do a better job of clearly showing the characters fighting? Half the battle sequences, I couldn't tell who was who.


Yea the battles were moving so fast that I was lost.


Iron Hide was cool, but why didn't he kick some decepticon tail? He seemed all talk and no action or did I miss something?


Yea he was to first one to say run when megatron appeared. THe real Ironhide would have been eager to step up to fight megatron.


I noted they accidentally refered to the Decepticon tank as Devistator. Too bad they didn't edit that before releasing the movie. I wonder if they will fix that for the DVD release?


Yea I noticed that also. Was that bonecrusher?

If a sequel is planned I hope they focus a bit more dialogue on the transformers and show the bond the autobots have and the despise Megatron (assuming he comes back) and Starscream have for each other, etc.

I heard it will be a trilogy. The boy and the girl sighned on for 2 more already. I know that starscream is still alive. So is scorpionok and barricade. They have to bring back megatron. It will be weird without him. All they did was put them in water. U know that isnt enough to stop them from coming back.

I liked the heavy involvement of the humans which made sense since the battles did take place on earth. I always hated the fact that the G1 shows almost never had humans mixed in with the battles and that when they did, the humans were almost always stupid and weak. At least in this movie, they did a great job fighting off the decepticons.

That was a first. non weak humans

Overall this was a very good movie for what it was and it puts a smile on my face that Transformers are back and here to stay!

Another thing that I hated is that they killed off jazz. He was always one of my favorites. WHen he died it hurt almost as much as when primed died in the original.

[gene]

Another thing that I hated is that they killed off jazz. He was always one of my favorites. WHen he died it hurt almost as much as when primed died in the original.

Actually it didn't affect me that much since Jazz played such a small roll in this movie. He was also way too small. I think he was smaller than Bumblebee.

I am still not over Prime dying in the original movie, so don't get me started :mad:

[mike c]

I am still not over Prime dying in the original movie, so don't get me started :mad:

I'm still shocked myself! on tv, they could blast the hell out of each other, miss each other a lot ... then in the movie, one blast = death.

[gene]

I'm still shocked myself! on tv, they could blast the hell out of each other, miss each other a lot ... then in the movie, one blast = death.

Only for the autobots. Did you notice in the original movie NOT one decepticon died? The damaged ones were all reformed by Unicron. Then after the movie, the damn insecticons were back despite they were already reformed into the sweeps.

[mike c]

Only for the autobots. Did you notice in the original movie NOT one decepticon died? The damaged ones were all reformed by Unicron. Then after the movie, the damn insecticons were back despite they were already reformed into the sweeps.

right, the only bad guys that got killed were new introduction nobodies.

talk about morale busters. I remember feeling so down through the movie ... it's like the parental lock was removed and the violence/death meter quota shot up.

[chris6878]

right, the only bad guys that got killed were new introduction nobodies.

talk about morale busters. I remember feeling so down through the movie ... it's like the parental lock was removed and the violence/death meter quota shot up.

I think that is why they bought prime back later. Too much of a backlash. BUt yea I shed a few tears when prime turned gray. lol

Oh and some decepticons did die. Even though they were killed by galvatron.

[gene]

Oh and some decepticons did die. Even though they were killed by galvatron.

Yes true, Starscream for example. I didn't mind that at all actually :)

Ok since we are on that topic. It really pissed me off that they killed Brawn and Prowl with 1 shot, meanwhile the autobots in that ship didn't hurt a flea in the process.

But lets switch back to the discussion of the new movie as that is what this thread is for :)

[WmAx]

I think that is why they bought prime back later. Too much of a backlash. BUt yea I shed a few tears when prime turned gray. lol

Oh and some decepticons did die. Even though they were killed by galvatron.

As I recollect, Prime was never supposed to really come back. He was brought back to life temporarily by the Quintessons as a tool of destruction, in what was supposed to be the grand finale of Transformers, in the episode, 'Dark Awakening'. One of the best episodes ever, IMO. It should have been left as the finale, as it was a superb ending. However, the Transformers were renewed the next season, and they saved Prime from his doom (that was really hard to swallow considering that Prime was flying into the explosion and coming to pieces in his last scene in Dark Awakening), where he re-appeared in the 2 part 'Return of Optimus Prime'. If I remember correctly, they even modified the Dark Awakening episode to show the next season right before the 'Return of Optimus Prime' in order to show him getting saved by some humans in a space ship.

-Chris

P.S.: As a G1 fan, I despise the pile of trash new movie. :D

[gene]

As I recollect, Prime was never supposed to really come back. He was brought back to life temporarily by the Quintessons as a tool of destruction, in what was supposed to be the grand finale of Transformers, in the episode, 'Dark Awakening'. One of the best episodes ever, IMO. It should have been left as the finale, as it was a superb ending. However, the Transformers were renewed the next season, and they saved Prime from his doom (that was really hard to swallow considering that Prime was flying into the explosion and coming to pieces in his last scene in Dark Awakening), where he re-appeared in the 2 part 'Return of Optimus Prime'. If I remember correctly, they even modified the Dark Awakening episode to show the next season right before the 'Return of Optimus Prime' in order to show him getting saved by some humans in a space ship.

Yes Prime was originally brought back by the Quientissons as a slave robot to lead the autobots into a trap. Why they would want to kill the autobots and not the decepticons is beyond me.

His body was badly broken and he lost his arm at the end right while his shuttle was being destroyed by the sun. Yet a few episodes later, his body was in perfect condition and he was retrieved by humans testing a new heat shield. He then used the power of the matrix to cure the red plaque and restore cybertron to a golden age I believe. I stopped following after that as I wasn't a fan of headmasters and all the stupid shows that followed. I heard there was a Japanese show called Trasformers 2010 where they again killed Prime shortly after he was introduced.

[Clint DeBoer]

It quickly turned into a joke after that with the Japanese cultural stuff dominating it like one big Yugi-oh show...

[chris6878]

Yea all those spin offs were terrible. Atleast they kept it true in the comic books.

[darien87]

The wife and I didn't really care for the movie. It didn't suck, but it wasn't great either. Too much childish humor for my taste. I thought that whole scene with the autobots trying to hide from the parents while the kid was looking for the glasses was hella stupid.

I actually liked the CG Beast Wars show, especially the 2nd season.

[chris6878]

Beast Wars!!!???? I see why you didnt like the movie. You were probably a GO-bot fan!

[WmAx]

Yea all those spin offs were terrible. Atleast they kept it true in the comic books.

The comic books have NOTHING to do with the G1 series. Almost everything is different(except the special MOVIE comic books that were pretty close to the movie story line). I don't even recognize the comic book as important. I was a G1 show fan, like most were.

The Beast Wars series was very faithful to the G1 cartoon when history was explored. However, the Beast Machines continuation series after that was not nearly so kind to the original history.

-Chris

[gene]

Beast Wars!!!???? I see why you didnt like the movie. You were probably a GO-bot fan!

Haha GoBots, god where those lame. :rolleyes:


WMAX;

Knock yourself out with this link below. Tons of old G1 episodes :D
http://watchtransformers.blogspot.com/2007/06/transformers-war-dawn.html

[chris6878]

The comic books have NOTHING to do with the G1 series. Almost everything is different(except the special MOVIE comic books that were pretty close to the movie story line). I don't even recognize the comic book as important. I was a G1 show fan, like most were.

The Beast Wars series was very faithful to the G1 cartoon when history was explored. However, the Beast Machines continuation series after that was not nearly so kind to the original history.

-Chris
I jut couldnt get into the whole animal thing with transformers. I had thundercats for that.
Yea the comicc story lines were different but they kept the transformers the same. I saw the comic as extra episodes.

[Sheep]

WmAx uses his amazing sound system to listen to Stan Bush.

You've got the touch, you've got the poweeeeeerrrrrrrr! YEAH!

SheepStar

[darien87]

Beast Wars!!!???? I see why you didnt like the movie. You were probably a GO-bot fan!
Go-bots?!?!?

Them's fightin's words!!! If you were here, I'd punch you in the face for making that insinuation. :p

[chris6878]

Go-bots?!?!?

Them's fightin's words!!! If you were here, I'd punch you in the face for making that insinuation. :p


lol........

[Sheep]

Did no one enjoy my stand bush rendition?

SheepStar

[en sabur nur]

[QUOTE=gene;284334]Haha GoBots, god where those lame. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I couldn't stand them either. Knock off wannabees!

[Clint DeBoer]

When I saw the movie I thought afterwards that it did a poor job of recreating the comaraderie of the series... then I re-watched some G1 episodes on youtube... They SUCKED! Still, hopefuly they'll elevate the robots to more character development next go-around, but those cartoons were uber-lame during season 1 at least.

[gene]

When I saw the movie I thought afterwards that it did a poor job of recreating the comaraderie of the series... then I re-watched some G1 episodes on youtube... They SUCKED! Still, hopefuly they'll elevate the robots to more character development next go-around, but those cartoons were uber-lame during season 1 at least.

The show got better with the episodes that followed the original movie. I would say 1 out of every 4 episodes was good and from a kids perspective, almost all of them were great! :D

[annunaki]

I will go on record as to how the second movie will begin.

Some remnant of the "allspark" will be near Megatron since he was destroyed with it and there was not much left. They were dumped into a deep sea trench that was supposedly very, very cold and under immense pressure. There will be an earthquake or some natural force to warm up that part of the sea floor (like the G1 Series). Something will click with the piece of the "allspark" and or one of the Decepticons. Seeing as though they are unbelievabley high tech self replicating machines and use special alloys they will be unaffected by the pressure of the water and rebuild. They will then have some sinister plan that only Megatron can concoct.

[gene]

I will go on record as to how the second movie will begin.

Some remnant of the "allspark" will be near Megatron since he was destroyed with it and there was not much left. They were dumped into a deep sea trench that was supposedly very, very cold and under immense pressure. There will be an earthquake or some natural force to warm up that part of the sea floor (like the G1 Series). Something will click with the piece of the "allspark" and or one of the Decepticons. Seeing as though they are unbelievabley high tech self replicating machines and use special alloys they will be unaffected by the pressure of the water and rebuild. They will then have some sinister plan that only Megatron can concoct.

Agreed, Megatron will be back for sure. Perhaps they will make a underwater base like they did in the G1 show. It would be cool if some evil scientist rebuilds Megatron into Galvatron.

Don't forget Prime has a piece of the allspark as well so I suspect if he figures out a way to use its power in a positive way, he can construct new autobots, perhaps Dinobots or Arielbots.

[jonnythan]

The end of the movie clearly indicated that the rest of the Autobots, out there in the cosmos, are on their way....

[furrycute]

Will Jazz be resurrected? It was sad to see Megatron tearing him to pieces.

[jonnythan]

I think there are enough other Autobots on their way that they can leave Jazz dead..

[Sheep]

Jazz was a freaking joke...

First line "What's up *****es?"

SheepStar

[gene]

Will Jazz be resurrected? It was sad to see Megatron tearing him to pieces.

He had like 1 or 2 lines in the whole movie and he was a sucky little car. I didn't weep when he died and I don't miss him. :rolleyes:

I want Warpath in the next one :)

[annunaki]

Will the Decepticons left out in space (asuming they are there like the other Autobots) intercept this message and come looking for war? It could be intriguing. I was disappointed to only see one of the "jet fighter" Decepticons. I was hoping that we would have seen Skywarp, Thundercracker and the others.

As far as Jazz goes, I really didn't care. I thought it was cool to show Megatron so powerful as to just rip him in two.

I agree with Gene that we have not seen the last of the "Allspark" or Megatron.

[chris6878]

I know that you all saw starscream flying to outerspace. HE will more than likely come back with some help. scorpionok and the mustang are still alive.

Damn all of yall...I liked jazz. He was the only black transformer. and he could dance! Oh yea I still got master blaster, So maybe there is still hope.

[annunaki]

I know that you all saw starscream flying to outerspace. HE will more than likely come back with some help. scorpionok and the mustang are still alive.

Damn all of yall...I liked jazz. He was the only black transformer. and he could dance! Oh yea I still got master blaster, So maybe there is still hope.


Who said he was black? He looked like a robot to me. :D

[mike c]

probably explains why he was the one killed. heehee ... just kidding. :)

it must have been a coincidence. :)

[chris6878]

probably explains why he was the one killed. heehee ... just kidding. :)

it must have been a coincidence. :)

Naw that is exactly what I was thinking. I was surprised Tyreese survived. lol