Need Sub..small footprint

Just purchased of set of 5.1 Anthony Gallo Adiva Ti speakers and now looking to pair them up with a good sub. I want a sub with a footprint around 14x14x14 that would do a room 15x25. I am also looking to spent 500 to 600 for the sub. Need it for movies and music. Any help appreciated..Thanks

This one should do, might be to expensive though...

http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/products/product.aspx?ID=13&sid=503l322y

You could also try out some deftechs, I don't know if they will have the output looking for.

Try the supercube II.

http://www.definitivetech.com/loudspeakers/subwoofers/subwoofers.html

Personally, I would save up a bit more, and get the SPLR. It has a calibration mic and auto EQ which is VERY handy. If you don't want to wait, you can get a MiniVee from Velodyne for around 799... That should do, and it does sound very nice.

SheepStar

I really like the footprint and sourround on the 10". Nice call Zumbo!

http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?sHist=12-161,6-547&menu=true&id=29988

stevem650 said:

Just purchased of set of 5.1 Anthony Gallo Adiva Ti speakers and now looking to pair them up with a good sub. I want a sub with a footprint around 14x14x14 that would do a room 15x25. I am also looking to spent 500 to 600 for the sub. Need it for movies and music. Any help appreciated..Thanks

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This is what I'm using, M&K VX860, it's 15x15x17 and can be found for around $700. I'm very happy with mine.

the svs cylinders are 16'' in diameter.

This fits you foot print requirements and is rated very high.

Small footprint good sub review

Short List

Here's an excerpt of some from a short list I'd compiled in another thread about a month or so ago (shipping is approx.):

Rocket ULW-10
Amp: 350w
FR: 26Hz - 150Hz +/- 3dB
Dimensions: 13.00" x 12.25" x 11.75" (HxWxD)
Price: $440 shipped
You can also get this in a black satin finish, but the price jumps $100.

Rocket UFW-10
Amp: 500w
FR: 25Hz - 150Hz +/- 2 dB
Dimensions: 13 7/16" x 13 1/8" x 12 7/8" (HxWxD)
Price: $650 shipped

Dayton Titanic 10" MKIII Kit
Amp: 250w
FR: 30Hz - ?
Dimensions: 14" x 14" x 14-1/4" (HxWxD)
Price: $358 shipped

Cambridge Soundworks P200
Amp: 200w
FR: 25 - 200Hz +/- 3dB
Dimensions: 13 3/4" x 12" x 13 1/2" (HxWxD)
Price: $355 shipped (found on their eBay store)

AV123 x-sub
Amp: 150w
FR: 28Hz - 150Hz +/- 3dB
Dimensions: 17 3/4" x 9" x 12 7/8" (HxWxD)
Price: $240 shipped
Tall at almost 18", but small footprint at 9" x 12 7/8"

The x-sub may be a bit small for your listening area, but I thought I'd throw it in there as well. Other than these, I'd suggest the Velo SPLs as well for this size footprint, though I think you'd have a tough time finding even the 800R for $600 or less.

While the Titanic and CSW subs aren't terribly aesthetically pleasing, they're good subs for the price in a small form factor. -TD

http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?sHist=12-161&menu=true&id=29989

Thanks for all the responses. I ordered today the Carver dominator D12 today. Looks what I am looking for and at a great price.

I've heard that sub, it actually is pretty decent for the price and size. It was even smaller than I expected and it has very respectable output. Not quite as good extension due in part to it being a sealed design, compared to my former PB-10, but it should be plenty for the typical size room.

j_garcia said:

I've heard that sub, it actually is pretty decent for the price and size. It was even smaller than I expected and it has very respectable output. Not quite as good extension due in part to it being a sealed design, compared to my former PB-10, but it should be plenty for the typical size room.

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You mean due to its SIZE...

SheepStar

Yes, the PB-10 is roughly 2X the size of the D12. I've found that sealed subs generally sound tighter, but that tightness also means a little less air movement so less tactile aspect to the sound. Not that it's bad, just different.

j_garcia said:

Yes, the PB-10 is roughly 2X the size of the D12. I've found that sealed subs generally sound tighter, but that tightness also means a little less air movement so less tactile aspect to the sound. Not that it's bad, just different.

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Yeah, but you said sealed DESIGNS don't go as low, which his false. Given the proper size box, a sealed sub will go lower then a ported one.

SheepStar

Sheep said:

Yeah, but you said sealed DESIGNS don't go as low, which his false. Given the proper size box, a sealed sub will go lower then a ported one.

SheepStar

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Show me one. Unless it has a link transform it will not.

MacManNM wrote:

Show me one. Unless it has a link transform it will not.

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I'll show you 4

Velodyne DD series(specifically DD15, -3db at 14.4Hz & DD18, -3db at 21.0Hz), Paradigm Servo15, -3db at 17.8Hz, Paradigm Signature Servo -3db at 18.3Hz

And remember these are actual measured responses not manufacture specs

cheers

MACCA350 said:

MacManNM wrote:
I'll show you 4

Velodyne DD series(specifically DD15, -3db at 14.4Hz & DD18, -3db at 21.0Hz), Paradigm Servo15, -3db at 17.8Hz, Paradigm Signature Servo -3db at 18.3Hz

And remember these are actual measured responses not manufacture specs

cheers

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You can't count servo subs either. That is not an artifact of sealed or ported. Sealed boxes ALWAYS require some help in the low end. There isn't a sealed sub built with a 3dB point of 16hz.

MacManNM said:

You can't count servo subs either. That is not an artifact of sealed or ported. Sealed boxes ALWAYS require some help in the low end. There isn't a sealed sub built with a 3dB point of 16hz.

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And all the SVS subs don't use EQ's in the amps to boost the low end right?

SheepStar

I thought there was a PEQ available for the SV subs, but I don't think any of the amps have EQ function built in (IIRC). They don't build any sealed subs at the moment though... They use the same drivers in various designs, using cabinet tuning to achieve the desired response, so I doubt the amps (which are also the same in similar models; PCi, Plus, Ultra) use any kind of EQ.

Note also that in order for a small sealed design to achieve similar performance as that of a large cabinet vented design, a LOT more power is needed. That is why those tiny cubes have 1000+ watts - they have to in order to achieve a certain level of performance. IMO, the D12 had about the same capability as the PB-10 while still not going quite as low. The main difference being, that it did it in a much smaller space. In order to do that though, it also required about 40% more power.

Yes, but I said this

Given the proper size box, a sealed sub will go lower then a ported one.

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I know tiny subs need big power and big excursion to hit the lows, but given the proper size box, they will outperform a ported subwoofer as far as un EQ'd extention goes.

Sheep said:

Yes, but I said this



I know tiny subs need big power and big excursion to hit the lows, but given the proper size box, they will outperform a ported subwoofer as far as un EQ'd extention goes.

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And that is completely wrong. A properly built vented sub will have much more low end extention than a properly built sealed unit (no eq, or feedback loop on either). The reason is, you are using the box and port to effectively double the output of the unit in a given frequency band. This lets you use both sides of the woofer to produce sound waves, instead of one like in a sealed unit.