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tomsch
11-24-2005, 11:23 PM
just got my first Plasma and the picture quality is very good with the HD channels and the DVD playback - but I have noticed a 3-inch bar moving from the bottom of the screen upwards in slow tempo (and then repeating it) - it is especially noticeable when the picture is all in one color (like a black screen or a screen full of green grass - wherever the bar moves the color takes on a very slight purple-ish tint.
The problem doesn't always occur.
I have a Panasonic ProLine 42-inch plasma - my cables in the back are somewhat organized, but they are in some proximity to the power cables - also all power cables share pretty much one outlet - the speakers used for the home theater are magnetically shielded.
Any advice?
Thanks!
mtrycrafts
11-25-2005, 12:17 AM
just got my first Plasma and the picture quality is very good with the HD channels and the DVD playback - but I have noticed a 3-inch bar moving from the bottom of the screen upwards in slow tempo (and then repeating it) - it is especially noticeable when the picture is all in one color (like a black screen or a screen full of green grass - wherever the bar moves the color takes on a very slight purple-ish tint.
The problem doesn't always occur.
I have a Panasonic ProLine 42-inch plasma - my cables in the back are somewhat organized, but they are in some proximity to the power cables - also all power cables share pretty much one outlet - the speakers used for the home theater are magnetically shielded.
Any advice?
Thanks!
Firstly, move the power cables away from any signal cables in the vicinity as a starter and see if it comes back. Has this issue come up on the previous TV?
tomsch
11-25-2005, 03:44 AM
I played around some more: the horizontal bar is actually about 1 foot wide, where the bottom 4 inches or so of the bar are somewhat darker in color - overall it's a green bar - I can see it clearly on our CBS HD feed that comes through the Comcast cable box as CBS shows its HD picture with grey bars on either side - on which I can see the green bar slowly scrolling up very clearly.
And here the interesting bit: when I connect my cable box (or my DVD players) straight into the plasma via component, I don't get those green bars.
When I go through the receiver (Onkyo TX-SR503) I get the bars - I even unplugged all other connections (except the speaker cables) to see if another component or audio cable was causing this - but no difference.
So again, when I go straight into the TV, the picture is flawless
when I go via the receiver I get the bars - what's up with that? is that normal because the signal goes through another piece of equipment?
Eric Apple
11-25-2005, 01:47 PM
Except for the intermittent part (that would be unusual for a ground loop), sounds like ground loop noise. Even though you are using the same plug for all equipment, the cable feed is tapped to ground at a different point.
You could try a ground loop isolater on the cable feed - http://www.*****************/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=180-075
Edit: that url is for p arts e xpress.
tomsch
11-25-2005, 03:01 PM
but I do get the same problem when viewing a DVD - could it be that my receiver has a different ground? would experimenting with different outlets make any sense?
Thanks!
tomsch
11-25-2005, 03:07 PM
one more question: is it possible that any other component or composite or audio cable could cause this problem - or is this strictly a power cable issue?
also: the plasma hangs on a wall that has a furnace on the other side - overall our house is old and most likely has a loaded electrical system.
AND! (don't crucify me!) a heating vent is close by.
I turned off the heat to that vent yesterday to see if it made any difference and nothing was real obvious what causes the noise - after a while it just looked as if the problem was there most of the time, but sometimes it was gone in no obvious correlation to what I was doing.
Frustrating!
mtrycrafts
11-25-2005, 03:48 PM
one more question: is it possible that any other component or composite or audio cable could cause this problem - or is this strictly a power cable issue?
also: the plasma hangs on a wall that has a furnace on the other side - overall our house is old and most likely has a loaded electrical system.
AND! (don't crucify me!) a heating vent is close by.
I turned off the heat to that vent yesterday to see if it made any difference and nothing was real obvious what causes the noise - after a while it just looked as if the problem was there most of the time, but sometimes it was gone in no obvious correlation to what I was doing. Frustrating!
Yes this is frustrating for sure.
It is free to experiment with different outlets:) If your plugs are 2 prongs, not polarized, swap that around too.
Also, a cable TV ground isolator is rather inexpensive, $10 or so, and solves many problems:
http://www.cencom94.com/gpage.html8.html
tomsch
11-25-2005, 05:02 PM
I went back and did some more experimenting after some advice from Eric - I unplugged the cable feed and all of a sudden the problem was gone!
went ahead and ordered the little part - keeping my fingers crossed!!!
Thank you guys for your help!
mtrycrafts
11-25-2005, 08:51 PM
I went back and did some more experimenting after some advice from Eric - I unplugged the cable feed and all of a sudden the problem was gone!
went ahead and ordered the little part - keeping my fingers crossed!!!
Thank you guys for your help!
I am pleased that we are able to help with this headache. That is why we are here.:D
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