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Which of these do you prefer most?

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Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
If you had to decide between the following receivers, which would you choose and why? I'm trying to stay in the $900-$1300 range. Upgrades down the road are fine (if you plan on adding an amp to a 5 channel unit). I'm not going by msrp, but street price. The Panasonic seems to have a cult following, thus the reason I've listed it. HK should have the 640 out soon.
 
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Mayhem

Mayhem

Audioholic Intern
Amazing how a receiver like the Yamaha 2600 is getting so many votes despite not being currently available. I chose it for feature set and because of the fact that it appears to have some nifty conversion abilities which should future proof it at least for a while.
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

Audioholic Field Marshall
Yamaha 2600

You got to love analog video upconversion to HDMI at this level, something the Denon 3806 missed. I think they will all sound about the same so go with the features you need. The video upconversion feature is tops for my use.
 
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jfabes

Audioholic Intern
Wait.....

Duffinator - that is not 100% accurate. On page 16 of the 3806 manual, it says:

"The AVR3806 is equipped with a function for converting analog video signals into hdmi signals. You can do this by either component, or a video or a s-video connection. Audio signals are not output from hdmi in the upconversion mode from the monitor output terminal, so also make analog or digital audio connections"

So, it does convert the video to hdmi, but w/o sound. You were 50% correct :D
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

Audioholic Field Marshall
jfabes said:
Duffinator - that is not 100% accurate. On page 16 of the 3806 manual, it says:

"The AVR3806 is equipped with a function for converting analog video signals into hdmi signals. You can do this by either component, or a video or a s-video connection. Audio signals are not output from hdmi in the upconversion mode from the monitor output terminal, so also make analog or digital audio connections"

So, it does convert the video to hdmi, but w/o sound. You were 50% correct :D
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You're right. It was originally reported on Audioholics that it didn't, and just a week ago the Denon website said it didn't but it now shows it does. They must have read my several posts complaining about no analog video upconversion to HDMI. :rolleyes: If that is the case I change my vote to the 3806.
 
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jfabes

Audioholic Intern
Duffinator said:
You're right. It was originally reported on Audioholics that it didn't, and just a week ago the Denon website said it didn't but it now shows it does. They must have read my several posts complaining about no analog video upconversion to HDMI. :rolleyes: If that is the case I change my vote to the 3806.
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Well, if you inadvertantly or otherwise had anything to do with the fact that it now does, I applaud your effort. :)
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

Audioholic Field Marshall
jfabes said:
Well, if you inadvertantly or otherwise had anything to do with the fact that it now does, I applaud your effort. :)
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One down one to go. Now if they can get the master volume OSD to show when watching a 480P and above source.....;)
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
175 views and only 27 votes? C'mon guys, go with your gut feeling on this one. It's not a test. No one is going to make fun of the guy voting for the Panasonic. Trust me. ;)
 
WorldLeader

WorldLeader

Full Audioholic
Polk is old school, got some Monitor Series 2 loundspeakers coupled with a Denon reciever from the late 80s and they sound great! Polk is a great brand, but havent heard them recently.
 
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jfabes

Audioholic Intern
Duffinator said:
One down one to go. Now if they can get the master volume OSD to show when watching a 480P and above source.....;)
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Yea, you got me there. I think 480i is all it can display. But hey, that's one step above my old 2802 which uses s-video.....now that's old school. The display looks like an old computer basic program running on a 640x480 vga monitor. Angled lines look like steps ....lol...
 
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jfabes

Audioholic Intern
Buckeyefan 1 said:
175 views and only 27 votes? C'mon guys, go with your gut feeling on this one. It's not a test. No one is going to make fun of the guy voting for the Panasonic. Trust me. ;)
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Well hold on now....Duffinator changed his mind to Denon, so that's one less for Yammy :D
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
In the order of the list, not in order of my favorites:

1. Denon is great, but I've seen the 4806 and it had some crosstalk issues with HDMI and was very slow with the conversion process. If that follows suit with the 3806, I wouldn't be thrilled - especially if the 2600 doesn't have that issue.

2. Yamaha 2600 - with a track record of excellent receivers in recent years and fast accurate switching, I would wait until the first review came through on the product, then would most likely go that route. They simply make a slightly better product for the money. Good stuff and my vote!

3. Marantz I think is still getting by on a bit of brand name and needs to catch up with Denon, Yamaha, and Pioneer.

4. H/K - not the quality level

5. Rotel - to much money, not enough quality

6. Pioneer Elite - Errmmm... maybe that instead of the Yammie.

7. Onkyo really needs to hire an engineer and test their products.

8. Panasonic - or maybe a Sony? How about a Samsung? Audio please. ;)

9. Nad - See Rotel exclude the quality. Good quality, not enough value for your $$$.

10. JVC - Or maybe a Panasonic? ;)

Just my opinion.
 
surveyor

surveyor

Audioholic Chief
I'd buy the Yamaha RX-V2600 ,since I have a seven channel amp.
I'f I did not have the seven channel amp, I'd buy the Denon 3806.
;)
 
MacManNM

MacManNM

Banned
BMXTRIX said:
In the order of the list, not in order of my favorites:

1. Denon is great, but I've seen the 4806 and it had some crosstalk issues with HDMI and was very slow with the conversion process. If that follows suit with the 3806, I wouldn't be thrilled - especially if the 2600 doesn't have that issue.

2. Yamaha 2600 - with a track record of excellent receivers in recent years and fast accurate switching, I would wait until the first review came through on the product, then would most likely go that route. They simply make a slightly better product for the money. Good stuff and my vote!

3. Marantz I think is still getting by on a bit of brand name and needs to catch up with Denon, Yamaha, and Pioneer.

4. H/K - not the quality level

5. Rotel - to much money, not enough quality

6. Pioneer Elite - Errmmm... maybe that instead of the Yammie.

7. Onkyo really needs to hire an engineer and test their products.

8. Panasonic - or maybe a Sony? How about a Samsung? Audio please. ;)

9. Nad - See Rotel exclude the quality. Good quality, not enough value for your $$$.

10. JVC - Or maybe a Panasonic? ;)

Just my opinion.
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Good post. I don't think Marantz is getting by on name though, have you seen their equipment from the late 80's and 90's? Absolute junk, killed the name. Just like what happened to Fisher in the 80's. I like the Amp section on the Marantz, and the HK for that matter. The real winners are the units with all the video Hooplah, the den and the yammie. As far as audio goes I think they all are about even, well except for the obvious ones......:p
 
WndrBr3d

WndrBr3d

Full Audioholic
Buckeyefan 1 said:
If you had to decide between the following receivers, which would you choose and why? I'm trying to stay in the $900-$1300 range. Upgrades down the road are fine (if you plan on adding an amp to a 5 channel unit). I'm not going by msrp, but street price. The Panasonic seems to have a cult following, thus the reason I've listed it. HK should have the 640 out soon.
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I think the H/K AVR7300 would be better suited for this category. I picked mine up for $1,250.
 
WndrBr3d

WndrBr3d

Full Audioholic
BMXTRIX said:
In the order of the list, not in order of my favorites:

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Just my opinion.
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I'm curious what criteria you use to base your "quality level", especially around the HK and Rotel products. Both Audioholics and Secrets have had nothing but stellar reviews for products from these manufacturers.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
The H/K is more personal opinion - and I don't have enough time with them to state it as fact. So - my opinion - not fact. I've only played with a few in stores, and they were nothing that I personally thought were spectacular. I'm open to have my mind changed on them!

Rotel... Well, Rotel I worked for a dealer with their products. Their amps I currently have in my home, they work very well. But, Rotel has some engineering issues and they are a bit slow to make changes to their equipment. They have had very basic engineering problems with things like slow volume and internal electrical crosstalk. They also failed and were DOA a bit more often than I liked. They SOUND great. But, I recommend A/V receivers for all around performance - audio, video, and reliability. The Rotel is beutiful, but a step behind. Maybe half a step - not ten steps, and I am not saying that any of their products are bad. They just aren't Yamaha or Denon.

Heck - just becuase they AREN'T Yamaha or Denon is reason enough for some people to purchase it.
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
WndrBr3d said:
I think the H/K AVR7300 would be better suited for this category. I picked mine up for $1,250.
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Excellent point. You can also buy a refurb Denon 3805 for $679 + $28 s/h at Ubid, but I was trying to list new models that have just come out (trying for the HDMI/XM etc... feature set). I know half of them are not new models, but would have listed them had they been announced.

We'll have to do a "best bang for the buck" poll next ;) .

BTW, how has the reliability been on the AVR7300? Hopefully there's no "18 month slow blow fuse" on yours. Have you hard that one yet?
 
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