HomeTheater on on a budget

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***Manny***

Enthusiast
Home Theater on a budget

I need some suggestion on what I can get for about $2000. I am looking for an A/V receiver and surround speakers 5.1. That can be use for music and movies. My basement room is about 10x17.

Thanks
 
maximoiglesias

maximoiglesias

Audioholic
May I suggest the Panasonic SA XR55K digital A/V reciever (check it out in the internet).
 
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***Manny***

Enthusiast
maximoiglesias said:
May I suggest the Panasonic SA XR55K digital A/V reciever (check it out in the internet).

I will take a look, thanks
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Manny - That is a heck of a lot more than most people have when they say they are on a 'budget'. You have a LOT of choices that are VERY good in receivers and speakers which is going to make this very difficult.

Axiom, BIC, Energy, etc. speakers are all excellent and have stuff in your range.

Receivers: Pioneer, Yamaha, Denon - Then repeat

The balance of how you break up your money is a personal decision really, but about a $500.00 receiver and the rest of speakers is about what I would try to shoot for.

Save 100 bucks or so for wiring as well!

You really will have closer to a low-midline system for that money and far better than most people ever have in their life.
 
Spiffyfast

Spiffyfast

Audioholic General
What type of music do you find yourself listening to? That will let ppl reccomend some more specific speakers
 
Takeereasy

Takeereasy

Audioholic General
I'd suggest the following:

Receiver: $430 Shipped

Pioneer 1015 $430 Shipped Just call the toll free number provided to get this price and have the product shipped.

Speakers: Total cost $575 shipped
Bic 62 center $110 Bic DV 84 $340 a pair Bic 62sio bookshelfs $125
If you plan on going 7.1 then just add an extra pair of the bookshelfs for $125.

Subwoofer: $750 shipped.
HSU VTF-3 MKII $750

Cables: About $70-$75 shipped.
Beleden 10 AWG. $28 for 100 ft. This stuff is great and has a dirt cheap price.

Impact Acoustics Sub Cable $35 YOu can get 20% off of this cable just by being an AH member which you are. That brings the price to $30. These are some thick/high quality cables. Maybe another member can link you to a cheaper, similar quality cable, but I stand by this guy.

That brings your total to about $1830 including cables for a 5.1 setup and $1955 for a 7.1 setup. All taxes and shipping included.

I'd also suggest you pick up some banana plugs. They don't add or take away from the sound quality but they make connection a breeze. You need 20 for a 5.1 setup and 28 for a 7.1. Look to spend at least another $30-$40 minimum depending on the type you get.
 
Spiffyfast

Spiffyfast

Audioholic General
Takeereasy said:
I'd also suggest you pick up some banana plugs. They don't add or take away from the sound quality but they make connection a breeze. You need 20 for a 5.1 setup and 28 for a 7.1. Look to spend at least another $30-$40 minimum depending on the type you get.
You can also pick up those at Impact acoustics for 20% off, and you can really spend about $16 on them for 7 speakers
 
wilkenboy

wilkenboy

Full Audioholic
Manny,

$2000 is a good amount, but you will still have to make some hard decisions- My suggested breakout of your budget:

Receiver: $450
Mains, center, and surround speakers (7): $1000
Sub: $500
Wiring: $50

One of the first questions you will have to answer for yourself is how to allocate the budget for the mains, center, and surrounds. Do you want to have the exact same speakers all the way around (better for DVD-A or SACD audio and best for ensuring an even soundstage all the way around you), or do you focus budget on the center, left front, and right front, and go with a less expensive speaker for surrounds (some who do primarily home theater do this, as most energy in movies comes from the center and fronts). You will find fanatics on both sides of this fence - the only way to figure this out is to go listen to both setups for yourself.

Depending on your tastes you may want to pull more money out of the speakers and throw it at the sub. More money in a sub equals either more volume (SPL) or lower extension (deeper bass). I would not plan on spending any less than $450-500 on the sub. I tried to do it, but subs below this price point just did not sound good to me - they either did not have enough low frequency extension (no really deep bass), or they sounded like they were playing one note regardless of what was fed to it (boomy, muddy)

For the sub, I'd highly recommend both SVS and HSU in this price range. Both sell direct over the internet, but have rock-solid reputations with the audioholics community.

There will be tens of different speaker manufacturers and models in this price range... lots of options and complexity. And of course everyone will recommend what they bought for themselves... ;) On the speakers my advice is to find a high end outlet and do some critical listening with some test material that you know well (CD or DVD). Listen to stuff well outside of your price range, find what your "ear" likes the most, then ask to see stuff in your range that approximates that sound.

Then come back here and ask for recommendations based on what sound you liked or did not like. That should help narrow the field to a manageable level.

Another option you may want to look at is limiting your system to 5.1 for the near term. That will allow you to put more money into the speakers and sub... then when you can save a bit more buy the extra two surrounds at a later date. Almost everything today is encoded in 5.1, with the occasional 6.1. 7.1 is a product of fancy processing to create 4 surround channels.

Another thing to consider is bass management. All small rooms have modes where bass frequencies are either emphasized or reduced. These modes can make even multi-thousand dollar subs sound boomy- so you may want to consider a parametric equalizer for just your sub. The Behringer Feedback Destroyer is a popular piece of equipment for this and can be had or about $100 (you can search for it on this forum) and it will have a night and day sort of impact on the way the sub sounds.

I hope this helps!! Remember, a lot of the joy in this hobby is in the research, the auditioning, and the anticipation of the purchase!

~Josh
 
wilkenboy

wilkenboy

Full Audioholic
Takeereasy has posted a nice system there, I haven't heard the BICs but if you hunt around for opinions on them they consistantly get "best value" sort of comments in the price range. The system he has suggested represents focusing a bit more on the fronts and center, and skewing your budget heavily toward the sub.

That setup would be better than most people ever own, even those who have spent $3000 on a system from a chain electronics store. :D

~Josh
 
ducker

ducker

Full Audioholic
wow I wish I had that "low budget" when I built my system.

I think I did mine for around $1300.
speakers,sub, receiver, cables...
 
Spiffyfast

Spiffyfast

Audioholic General
No, please dont get a Bose system, go out and listen to some speakers. You can get so much more for your money. A KLH sattelite system and a powered sub will get you the same quality of sound. If its the size of the speakers that you're looking for their are other options out there.
 
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***Manny***

Enthusiast
Do you think BOSe are overpriced?

What I am trying to find is a good set from one vendor. My preference is not to mix differet vendors in a setup.

Any sugestions.
 
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Kurt C.

Audioholic Intern
I second the "don't get a Bose system" plea. Bose spends a TON of money on advertising and very little on building quality speakers for the price. You can do better.

In addition to the speakers others have mentioned, I'd take a look at the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170. A fantastic speaker for the money and well within your budget.
 
farscaper

farscaper

Audioholic
You may want to use the forum's search tool on "Bose". You'll also find alot using the key word "Blose". Lots of opinions and some reviews. :eek:
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Spiffyfast said:
No, please dont get a Bose system, go out and listen to some speakers. You can get so much more for your money.


Let me second that. PLEASE don't get a Bose system. There is a reason people around here call it "Bloze". It's too lengthy to get into again.

For half the price, you'll get (probably) twice the performance with an Hsu Ventriloquist 12 system with an STF-2 subwoofer. I say "probably" because Bose does not publish their specs. Inferior product. Super hyped marketing.

Check it out at

http://www.hsustore.com/vt-12-stf-2.html

Good luck with your system.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
<---- HEY. Hoooray. My first "Seasoned" Member post. Get out that garlic powder!
 
brian32672

brian32672

Banned
rjbudz said:
Let me second that. PLEASE don't get a Bose system. There is a reason people around here call it "Bloze". It's too lengthy to get into again.

For half the price, you'll get (probably) twice the performance with an Hsu Ventriloquist 12 system with an STF-2 subwoofer. I say "probably" because Bose does not publish their specs. Inferior product. Super hyped marketing.

Check it out at

http://www.hsustore.com/vt-12-stf-2.html

Good luck with your system.
1 green chicklet for post #16 :)
Another new friend ;)

EDIT::: I got a negative rep for this post, because I gave someone else a positive.
I have my suspicions on who it was :mad: Obviously not rj :)
 
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Spiffyfast

Spiffyfast

Audioholic General
***Manny*** said:
Do you think BOSe are overpriced?

What I am trying to find is a good set from one vendor. My preference is not to mix differet vendors in a setup.

Any sugestions.
Bose is extremely over priced for the little paper cones it puts into plastic casings and calls speakers. By only using one brand you are severely limiting your options. I would really reccomend at least 2, that way you open your options up and can get a receiver from one brand and speakers from another. Optimal would be 3, one for receiver, one for speakers, and one for sub. Plus really a fourth for cables and interconnects. There are only a few companies out there that make receivers and speakers, and right now only Yamaha and Sony come to mind. If you must limit yourself to one Yamaha would be the way to go, but I think using only one manufacturer should be a last resort
 
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