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mfabien
07-31-2005, 07:59 AM
We should all pay attention to spelling when we post a message.
It would be neat if the Forums would carry a spelling check facility which could be used before submitting a post.
In my case, I use the APSC Spellcheck by Palmware which is a free download from: http://www.buzzys.net/spellcheck.html
And for a specific word check, I use WordWeb 2.2 but a newer version 3.3, which is a free version, can be downloaded from:
http://www.download.com/WordWeb/3000-2079_4-10341450.html
I wholeheartedly agree and would like to pursue this ASAP. We will look into it.
We should all pay attention to spelling when we post a message.
It would be neat if the Forums would carry a spelling check facility which could be used before submitting a post.
In my case, I use the APSC Spellcheck by Palmware which is a free download from: http://www.buzzys.net/spellcheck.html
And for a specific word check, I use WordWeb 2.2 but a newer version 3.3, which is a free version, can be downloaded from:
http://www.download.com/WordWeb/3000-2079_4-10341450.html
Mosts exellant idear
Clint DeBoer
07-31-2005, 02:28 PM
There is a SpellCheck plugin/hack for vBulletin, but we are almost at a point of a major (v3.5) upgrade. After the upgrade I'll put in the new code.
mfabien
07-31-2005, 02:43 PM
Once it's in place, I would wish Gene or Clint to announce its existence with a strong recommendation to make use of it to members of the Forum, out of respect not only for readers but for themselves.
It will hopefully reduce some frequent misspelled words such as "seperate" instead of separate. Unfortunately, because both words are in the speller, those who constantly say "to much" instead of "too much" will carry on with these kinds of mistakes.
Unfortunately, because both words are in the speller, those who constantly say "to much" instead of "too much" will carry on with these kinds of mistakes.
A spell checker won't catch grammatical errors.
It won't catch these common mistakes:
to vs too vs two
lose vs loose (my all-time worst pet peeve)
forth vs fourth
its vs it's
their vs there vs they're
your vs you're
and on and on....
Buckle-meister
07-31-2005, 06:17 PM
It also will not correct American English to (the original ;) ) English English :) .
Regards
Spiffyfast
07-31-2005, 07:07 PM
It also will not correct American English to (the original ;) ) English English :) .
Regards
oh ours isn't american english, its just american, so many differences now, dont know why they call it that
jaxvon
07-31-2005, 07:53 PM
Wha? It's still English, though a very bastardized version of it. What's even worse is that people who come to this country and have learned English as a second language often have a better understanding of it than people born here! Take the classic "you're vs. your". That one really grinds my gears.
mulester7
07-31-2005, 08:06 PM
Wha? It's still English, though a very bastardized version of it. What's even worse is that people who come to this country and have learned English as a second language often have a better understanding of it than people born here! Take the classic "you're vs. your". That one really grinds my gears......too vs to, is another gear-grinder, Jaxvon, but nothing like lose vs loose......
Clint DeBoer
07-31-2005, 08:44 PM
I can't STAND when people incorrectly spell use lose - except that I laugh when people, trying to be smart alecs, call someone a looser - that's just funny.
nibhaz
08-01-2005, 04:24 AM
I’m the world’s worst speller! I type all of my post in word and then cut and paste. It’s rather hard to take someone’s advice on a technical issue if they are unable to relay the information in an intelligent manner.
mfabien
08-01-2005, 06:09 AM
...but the speller will catch our typos. And typing quickly in order not to lose our train of thought, we do make typos and some we (at least I) do not see them even with a visual verification.
Buckle-meister
08-01-2005, 08:48 AM
Even though a spell-checker highlights mistakes in a person's text, it will not improve their English. That should be the real goal.
Regards
JohnA
08-01-2005, 08:56 AM
Has no one ever heard of WORD...come on folks just take 2 extra seconds and cut and paste.
mfabien
08-01-2005, 09:03 AM
Has no one ever heard of WORD...come on folks just take 2 extra seconds and cut and paste.
Yes I use WordWeb (same?) for single word search and synonyms. But what is needed, within the Forum before posting, is a complete text speller.
JohnA
08-01-2005, 04:45 PM
Yes I use WordWeb (same?) for single word search and synonyms. But what is needed, within the Forum before posting, is a complete text speller.
I meant Microsoft Word :D
algernon
08-01-2005, 11:27 PM
Perhaps posting should be restricted to those with an education of at least a B.S. degree. A doctorate degree would be strongly recommended, however.
A scan of one's diploma could be used as the avatar.
Perhaps posting should be restricted to those with an education of at least a B.S. degree. A doctorate degree would be strongly recommended, however.
Get real. There are plenty of college graduates that can't write or spell worth a crap and that really bothers me. I see it all the time at work and not one person has less than a BS in some engineering discipline. People write entire paragraphs as one single run-on sentence - no punctuation, no capitalization, and alot of the aforementioned simple spelling errors.
mfabien
08-02-2005, 06:02 AM
I meant Microsoft Word :D
This morning I finally understood that is what you meant and then saw your post confirming it.
Yes it makes a good verification tool and for more than spelling. But everyone using Windows, as an O/S, has Word and few would use it when posting to Forum boards. I guess the reason is that we are too lazy to make the effort. Incorporating a speller and activating it by a simple click of the mouse, when you type a message, is really the way to go to resolve spelling mistakes and typos.
Buckle-meister
08-02-2005, 08:37 AM
Perhaps posting should be restricted to those with an education of at least a B.S. degree. A doctorate degree would be strongly recommended, however.
A scan of one's diploma could be used as the avatar.
I agree with MDS (yet again ;) ). The state of a person's English is completely independant from them holding a degree or not. Holding a degree only signifies that the person possesses a certain level of knowledge in that field.
Or at least, should do...
Regards
algernon
08-02-2005, 01:27 PM
Get real.
I need to work on my sarcasm:)
There are plenty of college graduates that can't write or spell worth a crap and that really bothers me.
I fall into this category, who needs to spell correctly when we have MS word?
Also, I don't do math in my head.
IAlso, I don't do math in my head.
Oh no, please tell us you are not one of the younger generation that can't calculate sales tax without the aid of a calculator. :)
algernon
08-02-2005, 09:05 PM
Oh no, please tell us you are not one of the younger generation that can't calculate sales tax without the aid of a calculator. :)
Oh, I could do it, but why bother? :D
Seriously, though, I do scare myself sometimes when I reach for the calculator for an extremely simple calculation. I have to stop and slap myself. I routinely do % calcs in my head, but what is really scary is that I believe a large portion of the population have trouble figuring out 10%.
I heard a story once, don't know if it's true, that McDonald's was considering making a 1/3 pound burger. Their market research showed that it would be unsuccessful because many people would think it was smaller than the 1/4 pound burger.
mfabien
08-10-2005, 09:14 AM
While waiting for the Speller, this following one works within IE and works very well: http://www.iespell.com
malvado78
08-11-2005, 09:04 AM
While waiting for the Speller, this following one works within IE and works very well: http://www.iespell.com
I wonder what the spell checker woudl come up with for mfabien? :rolleyes:
mfabien
08-11-2005, 11:02 AM
I wonder what the spell checker woudl come up with for mfabien? :rolleyes:
Not sure what you mean... but I need to say this, you could have used it to correct your typo.
Resident Loser
08-11-2005, 12:29 PM
you could have used it to correct your typo.
...It's only a mild form of dyslexia...I od it lal the tiem...the brain knows what it wants to say but something gets lost in the transition to the fingers...(sh)it happens.
I certainly agree with the overall tone of the thread however...how can the content be relied upon if the spelling and grammar is at best, second-rate? As the old saying goes "you only get one chance to make a first impression".
I mean it's one thing if you're a really bad speller and something else entirely if your just too lazy to proofread...and then, of course, it might be something else entirely...
jimHJJ(...some of the stuff I see makes ME embarassed for the poster...)
I mean it's one thing if you're a really bad speller and something else entirely if your just too lazy to proofread...and then, of course, it might be something else entirely...
I guess you had one of those lazy moments - should have been you're. [Just ribbing you. :)]
That's the kind of error we really need to be able to catch. Sometimes it truly is just a typo...but a simple spell checker won't catch it.
Resident Loser
08-11-2005, 01:19 PM
I guess you had one of those lazy moments - should have been you're. [Just ribbing you. :)]
That's the kind of error we really need to be able to catch. Sometimes it truly is just a typo...but a simple spell checker won't catch it.
...ran out of apostrophes or it was something else entirely...
jimHJJ(...Resident Looser...)
malvado78
08-11-2005, 01:29 PM
...It's only a mild form of dyslexia...I od it lal the tiem...the brain knows what it wants to say but something gets lost in the transition to the fingers...(sh)it happens.
I certainly agree with the overall tone of the thread however...how can the content be relied upon if the spelling and grammar is at best, second-rate? As the old saying goes "you only get one chance to make a first impression".
I mean it's one thing if you're a really bad speller and something else entirely if your just too lazy to proofread...and then, of course, it might be something else entirely...
jimHJJ(...some of the stuff I see makes ME embarassed for the poster...)
That was funny.
I didn't mean too much mfabien. Have you ever been working in MS Word and mistype a word. Spellcheck sometimes suggests words they are not even close. Using techinical words at work, as well as acronyms, it gets kind of funny to see the suggestions it will come up with. That's the kind of thing I was talking about.
I have to admit I am one that doesn't take the time to proof read most of the time. Hence the "woudl." (EDIT:: meant to be mispelled here)
#SLAP#
I gave myself a slap on the wrist for it and will promise to try to proofread from now on. Starting with this thread.
(I hope I don't miss anything that would be embarassing.)
goodman
08-11-2005, 01:52 PM
In addition to improving our spelling, IMO, we should avoid the use of acronyms, and we should forswear metaphors like the plague.
malvado78
08-11-2005, 02:50 PM
In addition to improving our spelling, IMO, we should avoid the use of acronyms, and we should forswear metaphors like the plague.
Forswear?
OK New thread. Forum Dictionary. ;)
Sheep
08-11-2005, 05:31 PM
Even though this is a very valid point to ease the reading experience on this site, it's some what pointless. This foum probably has the best grammer and spelling out of all the forums on the net....probably.
The one thing that should be changed is the acronyms. AFAKIA blah, using these acronyms seems counter-productive. Sure we can keep the basics, but if theres more then 3 letters, whats the point? Just type a full sentence you lazy arse.
As for spelling, as long as theres a clear message, I don't think its that important to flame someone about it. Plus apostrophe's are not the end of the world.
sheep
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