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    Arrow Bob Carver VTA20S Black Magic 20 Watt Stereo Amplifier Preview

    A 20 watt stereo tube amp that is bridgeable to 40 watts into a single channel, the $2100 Bob Carver Black Magic 20 is sure to turn heads. We love the look of the amp and the pedigree of the manufacturer can't be denied. While we have to hold our noses as we dig through all the audiophile psuedo-science and marketing speak, we're sure this is a quality offering. Now, if only we could get a review unit.


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    While I know that tub amps has nostalgia to it. I personally would not pend $2100 on a 40 watt Amp, I dont care who makes it.. Perhaps others may be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fowl View Post
    While I know that tub amps has nostalgia to it. I personally would not pend $2100 on a 40 watt Amp, I dont care who makes it.. Perhaps others may be interested.
    Agreed, I think they are selling image and mystique to buyers who will pay for that. For audio purposes you could do a lot more with 21 C-notes!

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    Be interesting to A/B the Carvin T100 50WPC tube amp (at $599) against the Carver design.

    I wonder what Bob has figured out that the engineers at Carvin haven't when it comes to tube amps.
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    Default Carver and tubes?

    Mr. Carver's career seems to have taken full circle. Wikipedia indicates that he was once known for designing inexpensive amps that matched the perfrormance of much more expensive models. Just gotta wonder whether this is a cheeky exercise on his part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lesser evil View Post
    Mr. Carver's career seems to have taken full circle. Wikipedia indicates that he was once known for designing inexpensive amps that matched the perfrormance of much more expensive models. Just gotta wonder whether this is a cheeky exercise on his part.
    Nope, just genius in recognizing that a fool and their money can be easily parted and figuring out a way to exploit it.
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    lotta trash talking about a guy thats been building amps in the audio industry for over 40 years. he's "exploiting" people, really? similar "audiophile" amps go for 10x the cost of this one.
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    All I know is I gotta figure out how to get people to give me $800 for $50 worth of cable parts... A marketer I am not

    Bob isn't the only one with 40 years in the industry. There are a lot of great designers out there. David Hafler made some really affordable great sounding amps that were bullet proof. The DH 220 is a hallmark amp: Affordable, simple in design and reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratso View Post
    lotta trash talking about a guy thats been building amps in the audio industry for over 40 years. he's "exploiting" people, really? similar "audiophile" amps go for 10x the cost of this one.
    Until you can explain why this one costs over $2k a comparison to higher priced things does not make it less exploitative.
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    I've been into high-end audio for decades, but I've never understood tube power amps. What's the point? Now that engineers are figuring out full-range Class D solid state amps even Class AB solid state amps are entering the "Why bother?" realm. Tubes, vinyl, analog tape... audio romance and maybe some pleasant roll-offs or second harmonic distortion.

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