Onkyo Pure Audio with Sub?

[Jay_C]

Hi Guys

I’m using Pure Audio setting when listen to music which means the Subs Is not used and can’t be enabled, I’m getting good bass response from my fronts but would like a bit more.

The only way I can get the fronts and to work together is using the Stereo Option. However I can’t get it to sound like the pure option

Any Suggestion on setting changes to help this?

Thanks

[MDS]

You may be able to use the 'Double Bass' setting (aka LFE+MAIN in other brands) in pure direct mode. That will send the bass from the front speakers to the sub in addition to the front speakers.

[Jay_C]

You may be able to use the 'Double Bass' setting (aka LFE+MAIN in other brands) in pure direct mode. That will send the bass from the front speakers to the sub in addition to the front speakers.

Thanks for the quick response,

I’ve just tested you r idea unfortunately the double bass setting can’t be set in Pure Audio mode.

I have also tested it using Direct Mode which is similar to Pure Audio but allows a bit of processing to be added manually, this also didn’t work.

[sholling]

Pure Audio is intended for use with full range speakers and disables the sub. Despite the hype in the manual I don't see it as a plus and prefer to use stereo mode for stereo music.

[Jay_C]

Pure Audio is intended for use with full range speakers and disables the sub. Despite the hype in the manual I don't see it as a plus and prefer to use stereo mode for stereo music.

Ye i tend to agree with you, really just looking to change a few setting in stereo mode to remove some of the processing to maybe give a bit of a cleaner sound.

[LAB3]

Some subs have "High Level Inputs" on the back of them. So you can take the L&R speaker wires from the amp to the sub then to your speakers. This way if you don't want to hear the subs on "Pure" mode just turn off the sub. I am lucky my Yamaha AVR has a "Pure Direct" no processor no LFE and it has a "Straight Analog" mode that only adds the LFE(no other processor or eq used) if your AVR has has low level line inputs on the back. There is some analog music that use my subs on. Hope this helps
Louis

[Jay_C]

Some subs have "High Level Inputs" on the back of them. So you can take the L&R speaker wires from the amp to the sub then to your speakers. This way if you don't want to hear the subs on "Pure" mode just turn off the sub. I am lucky my Yamaha AVR has a "Pure Direct" no processor no LFE and it has a "Straight Analog" mode that only adds the LFE(no other processor or eq used) if your AVR has has low level line inputs on the back. There is some analog music that use my subs on. Hope this helps
Louis

My Sub does in fact have "High Level Inputs".

My Sub is at the back of my room, thats alot of rewiring

If I where to you that would that make the Line Input(LFE) redundant?

I suppose if I where to get a new sub and move the old one to
the front and use that sub for music using the "High Level Inputs".

LOL Any excuse to buy something new ehh

[sholling]

Ye i tend to agree with you, really just looking to change a few setting in stereo mode to remove some of the processing to maybe give a bit of a cleaner sound.

As long as you're in stereo mode and not one of the artificial stadium type modes I doubt that you'd be able to detect any processing other than Audyssey room correction.

[LAB3]

My Sub does in fact have "High Level Inputs".

My Sub is at the back of my room, thats alot of rewiring

If I where to you that would that make the Line Input(LFE) redundant?

I suppose if I where to get a new sub and move the old one to
the front and use that sub for music using the "High Level Inputs".

LOL Any excuse to buy something new ehh

Right now in my bedroom I have one sub in the other corner and had to run speaker wire(unhooked) from front right to it and then back to my speaker.
35 feet of speaker wire tucked down in the carpet at the baseboard was worth the time and money for just my two Klipsch Heresy II and a sub on for my flatt screen. I loaned my 2003 bedroom AVR to a friend while his Pioneer AVR is in the shop. Had to dig out my old Kenwood Receiver from the late 1980's that did not have a LFE plug. I was suprised how nice the HII sound on that old Kenwood. Happy hunting for a new sub as there are so many to look at. Speaker wire was lot cheeper( friend paid for it and helped) then the long LFE wire I purchased 3 years ago.

[Jay_C]

Right now in my bedroom I have one sub in the other corner and had to run speaker wire(unhooked) from front right to it and then back to my speaker.
35 feet of speaker wire tucked down in the carpet at the baseboard was worth the time and money for just my two Klipsch Heresy II and a sub on for my flatt screen. I loaned my 2003 bedroom AVR to a friend while his Pioneer AVR is in the shop. Had to dig out my old Kenwood Receiver from the late 1980's that did not have a LFE plug. I was suprised how nice the HII sound on that old Kenwood. Happy hunting for a new sub as there are so many to look at. Speaker wire was lot cheeper( friend paid for it and helped) then the long LFE wire I purchased 3 years ago.

So when i connect using "High Level Inputs" i leave the Pre-Out LFE wire connected as well?